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Making Cents of It All
PGA Championship 2025 at Quail Hollow - Is it the Kardashian of the Major Championships?
The Tin Cup Club joins the show to discuss this week's PGA Championship, the venue, and show much more!
Former PGA Tour player Hunter Mahan was critical of this week's PGA Championship venue. The 42-year-old acknowledged the course was in great shape but added that he feels it’s missing something.
“I guess I would say Quail Hollow is like a Kardashian,” Mahan said. “It’s very modern, beautiful and well-kept. But it lacks a soul or character.”
Agree or disagree?
The PGA Championship is one of golf’s storied majors, rich with tradition and evolution that mirrors the growth of professional golf itself. Here’s a deep dive into its history:
Origins and Early Years
The PGA Championship was inaugurated in 1916 by the PGA of America with the goal of unifying and advancing professional golf. Initially conceived as a tournament for club professionals, its first edition was held at the Siwanoy Country Club in Bronxville, New York. The early days of the PGA Championship were marked by a competitive spirit among local professionals, setting the stage for the tournament’s future prominence. This event signaled a move toward greater organization and recognition for professional golfers who had long been overshadowed by the more established amateur events.
The Match Play Era
For the first five decades of its existence, the PGA Championship was contested using a match play format. This head-to-head style of competition not only underscored the one-on-one skills of the competitors but also introduced dramatic duel scenarios that captivated audiences. During this period, legendary golfers like Walter Hagen and Sam Snead emerged and made their marks on the tournament. Their repeated successes helped to build the championship’s reputation and contributed to its growing prestige within the golf community.
Transition to Stroke Play
A pivotal change occurred in 1958 when the tournament switched from match play to stroke play. This shift was more than just a change in format; it was a strategic move to align the PGA Championship with evolving broadcast requirements and the increasing appetite for a more straightforward format. Stroke play provided a clearer measure of consistency over the entire tournament and brought the championship closer in line with the other major tournaments. The new format allowed for larger fields and emphasized the importance of every shot taken over the course of four days, thereby enhancing its appeal to both players and spectators.
Evolution and Notable Champions
As the tournament evolved, so too did its roster of champions. The PGA Championship has been won by some of the most iconic names in golf history. The dominance of early champions like Walter Hagen paved the way for future legends. Later, as the event expanded in scope and recognized worldwide, champions such as Jack Nicklaus, Ben Hogan, and more recently Tiger Woods have added chapters to its rich legacy. Each era of winners has contributed to the narrative of endurance, skill, and strategic excellence.
Modern Era and Significance
Over the decades, the PGA Championship has transitioned from a regional contest for club professionals into one of the four major championships in golf. Its rotation among premier golf courses across the United States—and occasionally abroad—has showcased the diversity and beauty of golf course architecture. The modern PGA Championship is celebrated not only for its competitive rigor but also for its role as a bellwether for the sport. The tournament's scheduling, the infusion of modern sponsorships, and extensive media coverage have all played a role in making it an integral part of the global golf calendar.
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Jesse Stakes: Hey, everybody! Welcome to this week's episode of making sense of it all. We are nearing the PGA championship, so I am very blessed to have my buddies from the Tin Cup Club join me.
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Jesse Stakes: guys. Thank you so much, Wes, as always a pleasure. Thank you so much for being on the show.
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Wes Altice Golf: Always always a pleasure, and ready to talk some golf.
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Jesse Stakes: Mike Padron. Thanks for coming back.
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Jesse Stakes: 3.rd
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Mike Padron: Your way yet. No, appreciate it, man. I enjoy this way too much.
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Jesse Stakes: And straight from the er Dr. Blakely. Thank you so much for joining us.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: I appreciate you having me.
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Jesse Stakes: So as always before we get rolling guys, we're gonna talk about what we got in our hands.
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Jesse Stakes: Padrone, what you drinking today.
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Mike Padron: Well, I figured, since this is my 5, th ranked Major. I went with my 5th favorite bottle on my shelf, which is a Colonel Taylor small batch.
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Jesse Stakes: Nice.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: I'm a fan.
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Mike Padron: I mean that's no knock on it. That's damn good.
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Mike Padron: So, but figured I'd.
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Jesse Stakes: I mean, I feel like you, just I feel like you just slap Colonel. Colonel.
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Jesse Stakes: Yeah.
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Mike Padron: Face right there. Yeah. I mean the 4.
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Mike Padron: The 4 it's going against is pretty tough, but.
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Jesse Stakes: Hmm.
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Mike Padron: For for another episode.
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Jesse Stakes: Blakely, what you drinking.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Doing a little bit of the Willet.
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Jesse Stakes: Nice nice bottles, pretty, I said. I'll take it down.
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Jesse Stakes: Mr. Altus, what you got this week.
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Wes Altice Golf: I've got my trusty buffalo trace.
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Jesse Stakes: Very nice, so my my stuff always comes with stories. But so I
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Jesse Stakes: was at a I was at a Kentucky Derby party last Saturday. I guess it's Saturday prior to last, and
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Jesse Stakes: there was a Bourbon. It was a thing called Bobbin for Bourbon, and so I was really hoping that you actually had to like, you know, dive in face first, st and actually pull these things out to get to get bottles of Bourbon. But it was by hand. Just so, you know. Just a, you know. Just it was kind of disappointing, but it was what it was, but anyways
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Jesse Stakes: they had a wall full of Bourbon, and you paid 20 bucks for one pull you paid. You paid 50 for 3, so I was like, 1st time I was like, you know what I'll just pay for one. I went, paid for one, and immediately pulled this bottle of Bourbon. It's called blue note Juke joint. It is
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Jesse Stakes: bottled in Kentucky. It's a Kentucky Bourbon, but it's distributed in Memphis, Tennessee, so they kind of go along with the with the whole Memphis blues and everything pretty solid Bourbon, but it's a it's a small batch. 93 proof. If you're in Memphis, check it out pretty good.
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Mike Padron: Blue note is one of my favorite blue note. There's 1 single one impossible to find.
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Mike Padron: That's a i believe it's an 8 or 9 year. I refuse to open it because the last bottle and it's blue note. It's funny you brought that out. It's not the Juke joint, but they don't even make it anymore. And I've never been have not been able to find it. And it's it's in that top 4. It was ironically we just talked about.
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Mike Padron: So.
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Wes Altice Golf: Nice.
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Mike Padron: All right. Cheers, boys!
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Wes Altice Golf: Cheers.
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Jesse Stakes: All right. So it's the week of the PGA championship, and you know, I guess everybody you know everybody, and Mike kind of kicked us off there, so I'll probably go to him 1st here, as far as where? Where these majors rank, you know. Everyone looks at them, and everyone's kind of got their favorite events. You know, Mike, I'll kind of start with you, you said it's your 5th favorite, major.
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Jesse Stakes: I'll let people infer there what they will but tell me, what are your thoughts on the PGA championship?
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Mike Padron: Yeah, that that kind of goes along the lines of our our talk before the players. So I threw I threw the players into the 3 spot.
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Mike Padron: Obviously Augusta was one for me. I love the open.
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Mike Padron: and then I had the players for oh, us open 5 and or us open. 4. Sorry.
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Mike Padron: And PGA 5, th I don't know.
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Mike Padron: a lot of these guys do change venues, so I can't use that excuses of, you know, consistently changing venues. It's just there's nothing that gets exciting. I do like it better early now than it used to be. I believe it used to be closer to the fall, if not the last of
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Mike Padron: yeah, it was August last.
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Mike Padron: Yeah. So I do like it early. I think it gives it a little more presence, because it's now we're this is the second major. Now you still got. Obviously there's a person that can still run the grand slam, so it does give it a little bit of hope.
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Mike Padron: I don't know. I mean I love it any any golf and any major I love. I just for some reason it is just another tournament for me, with little higher stakes and a little better field. But still that's kind of my feeling on it. I'm sure it's a knock on the PGA. But
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Mike Padron: well, I will say, the one thing I love about it is the PGA professionals that get to qualify for this. I watched that to the very last hole when they were trying to qualify for it. That was fun to watch and watch these guys get to some of these guys live out a dream of being able to play in the PGA championship. That was, that's pretty cool. And the fact that there's a bunch of them in there. That's awesome.
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Jesse Stakes: No doubt, no doubt, Blakely, what are your thoughts?
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Yeah, you know. I'm excited, for just like everybody else, I probably put it, if I'm going to only talk about the actual majors, Mike.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Oh, no.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Number 3 Augusta. Number one can't be beat in my book
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: for many reasons, and I like the Us open, and then I'd say the PGA. I my biggest reason and it it's only more recently.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: But they really make a big show about and do a lot of backstories on these PGA professionals that get in. And it is really interesting to me, and it also gives you some, you know, new people to look at and root, for I found that part interesting
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: story for another day, but I also think they should do a little bit of
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: a little bit extra in each major just to kind of show people how difficult the courses really are. But yeah, I like you get to see some quote unquote. You know more regular people out there playing, too.
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Jesse Stakes: Yeah.
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Jesse Stakes: Wes, what about you? I know I mean being a teaching pro that. Probably you know, some of that's probably pretty cool for you, too.
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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, I mean for me. This. It ranks number 4. Obviously, I'm going.
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Wes Altice Golf: The masters. Us open the Open Championship, and this falls in last.
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Wes Altice Golf: I don't know. Sometimes I feel like it's just a elevated event. I think it is really cool that Pj professionals get to qualify for it, you know. Was it? Last year we had Michael Block? He just made a you know, a big splash on, and everyone was pumped up like what he got to play. Rory, in the play with Rory in the final group.
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Wes Altice Golf: had a hole in one that didn't, you know, just went straight into the cup, and he didn't even know it. So I mean, it does bring that extra element of
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Wes Altice Golf: people that do the day to day grunt work. And you know, being a PGA pro
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Wes Altice Golf: they get out and showcase some of their skill.
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Wes Altice Golf: I would. I'm kind of like Mike. Here is I. I actually enjoy the players more than I do the Pta
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Wes Altice Golf: and it might be because we've been able to play the course. We know the course. It's in our backyard, so that might have a little bit to do with it as well. But
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Wes Altice Golf: yeah, as far as if I'm sitting down to watch golf, and I had to kick one of them out it probably the PGA championship, and I'd watch the players instead if I could only watch like 4 tournaments a year.
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Jesse Stakes: Gotcha.
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Wes Altice Golf: So that's that's where I kind of land with it. So yeah, that's that's where I put the Pj Champ.
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Jesse Stakes: Alright. So I'm gonna be a little different here, guys.
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Jesse Stakes: I would say, you know, as far as
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Jesse Stakes: the thing that I like about it, and as far as ranking it, I think I would agree with everybody. The masters has always been my favorite major to watch every single year.
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Jesse Stakes: And I always think that the British open brings in something that is so different, just because it's not. It's nothing I've ever experienced. It's not. I can't even I can't even relate to it. And then the Us. Open is so challenging that you're watching the best in the world struggle at what they're doing.
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Jesse Stakes: My! My thoughts around the PGA championship is that they set up the course pretty fair. It's tough, they always make it. They've always put it at difficult venues. They always make it, like, you know, kind of a tough challenge, but they seem like they set it up fairly to where you see the best players in the world able to score.
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Jesse Stakes: And they're they're kind of fighting it out to the end, not trying to survive or not trying to. You know it's it's it's they're out there. They're trying to. They're playing the golf course and they're able to score. They're able to actually be aggressive and go out and win a tournament. So for that reason I would probably put it.
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Jesse Stakes: put it 3rd on my list, and it really isn't because and if I'm ranking them, the Masters first, st the Open Championship, second, because it's so different and it's so unique to get up in the morning and be able to watch golf in the United States, and then PGA, and then the Us. Open 4, th and not because I don't like the Us. Open, but because I think it's like a survival test. It's not necessarily something to get really excited about watching.
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Jesse Stakes: Yeah. So I mean, that's for me. That's that's 1 of the things. Also the other thing that I like so much about it is they really have started to in the last, I'd say probably 5 years, maybe longer. Now they've tried to bring in some unique events, like they do a long drive challenge in the practice rounds. They always, you know, they have the PGA teaching professionals have the opportunity to qualify to play it. So
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Jesse Stakes: they've tried to do some things to give it its own personality, which I really like, that that they've that they've tried to give it something to make it look a little bit different than the other events.
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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, that's that's a really good point. I know they've been doing. They've actually been doing that long drive thing for many, many years. And what's kind of interesting about the PGA championship with the history of it. It used to be match play
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Wes Altice Golf: when it opened, like when it 1st started 1916 to 57. I believe it was. It was all match play which I thought.
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Mike Padron: That'd be cool.
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Wes Altice Golf: Was pretty, freaking, cool.
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Jesse Stakes: Yeah.
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Wes Altice Golf: So that would be pretty interesting. I'm sure that doesn't work well with a TV time.
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Wes Altice Golf: So that's probably a big reason why that went to the curb. But I mean it's
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Wes Altice Golf: It definitely has a different twist. And you mentioned something about the Us. Open. I agree with sometimes when the Usga. Loses the course it kind of sucks to watch.
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Wes Altice Golf: So us open for me can like bounce between
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Jesse Stakes: Yeah, I mean to make.
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Mike Padron: when you've got a you know, minus one to winning the tournament. That's kind of crazy. I mean watching these guys struggle?
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Mike Padron: I do. I mean, Jesse might be convincing me a little bit here on this, because.
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Jesse Stakes: It's the p, the.
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Mike Padron: PGA tends to be more scoring.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Yeah.
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Mike Padron: I think we're going to have some good scores out this week, so I can be convinced. I guess.
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Jesse Stakes: It's all entertainment at the end of the day, I mean, no matter what the tournament name is on it, it's the fact. Are we going to sit down and be entertained by what we're watching on television?
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Jesse Stakes: Or if you go to the event, if you buy a ticket, whatever it is, it's, you know. Is it worth your time? Is it worth your your dollars to invest in watching it? I think at the end of it, like I say that about a lot of things. I say that about playing golf, unless you're a professional. Is it worth your time? Is it worth your dollars? So it's I think that's where for me. Sometimes they kind of hook me on this tournament versus the Us. Open is that I feel like
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Jesse Stakes: I'm watch. I'm looking for something on Sunday. If somebody's within 5 strokes of the lead you think about like what Justin Thomas did several years ago, like when he came back and won it, or like, could you do that in the Us. Open? Is it even possible, like on Sunday, to come back from a like if you're if you're down a large deficit, I don't know.
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Jesse Stakes: Know on Wednesday, not winning it.
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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, I mean that that is the problem with the Us. Open a lot of times. It's like.
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Wes Altice Golf: how many times you see, like a ball hit the middle of the green, and it doesn't have a chance to stay on the green, and it was a good shot like you didn't have another option.
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Wes Altice Golf: So yeah, I mean, you could definitely convince me to slide us open
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Wes Altice Golf: down a few notches, depending on course setup.
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Jesse Stakes: So let's talk about that a little bit. Let's talk about the actual, the actual venue like it's at Quail Hall quail hollow this year in North Carolina. 1st off. Is anybody familiar with the course as far as like? Is there anything where you like this quail hollow? Hold any kind of special like. Do you think about it? And like, Oh, my God, that's an amazing venue to watch on television. Or that's something special. Does anybody have that.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: I mean the only.
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Wes Altice Golf: Think.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Ignition. But that's it.
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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, I mean, 18.
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Mike Padron: Logo. That logo is badass.
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Wes Altice Golf: No.
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Wes Altice Golf: 18th hole is about all I can ever remember about it.
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Wes Altice Golf: I think what they call it the Green Mile, or something like that might be wrong. I don't know.
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Jesse Stakes: I think you're right.
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Wes Altice Golf: It's a.
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Jesse Stakes: Yeah, I mean, it's a very, it's a. It's a very just.
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Mike Padron: Parkland. Course, it's just.
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Wes Altice Golf: It's a golf course in the United States. Yeah, it's Parkland.
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Mike Padron: So I was just reading here. It's Robert Trent Jones, senior.
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Mike Padron: Design, which is kind of cool.
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Jesse Stakes: But think about that like, as far as I guess that's that's 1 of the different. I think one of the biggest differences like with the PGA championship sometimes. Is that like you said, it's a it's a golf course in the United States. It's not some in, you know. It's not some.
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Jesse Stakes: you know, hollowed ground that you see the Us. Open venues all the time, like on all these old, very difficult golf courses.
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Jesse Stakes: These, you know, it's the Donald Ross courses everything, not saying that they don't ever go to them, but but they incorporate a lot of other venues like in this one. I almost would argue. Sometimes it's played every year on the PGA tour, like the PGA Tour, stops at Quail Hollow for the Wells Fargo championship or the truist championship, as it's called now, now that they I know this year they did it in Philadelphia, but it is typically held at Quail Hollow. So it's not like. It's a
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Jesse Stakes: unique venue that we don't ever see.
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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, I mean, you know, when they do.
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Wes Altice Golf: When they do the Us. Open at Pebble Beach we'll see Pebble Beach twice a year. But again, that's Pebble Beach. It's a little bit different. I don't think people mind seeing it twice a year, especially when it can be on completely different conditions like you get it early in the year, you know it's wet and everything. Then you get in the summer. It's firm, fast
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Jesse Stakes: I know none of us have had the opportunity to play it, Blakely. You're probably the closest to it, as far as from a like. Do you know anybody who's ever played it.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: I'm the closest to it from a distance.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: All 3 of you guys will be playing quail hollow before me.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: No, I don't know anybody that's played it awesome.
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Jesse Stakes: I don't know anybody that's played it. I don't know. I mean, I knew a professional up in North Carolina that that you know talked about it a long time ago. That said it was a very nice golf course, but but nothing to where I'm like, you know, kind of like when we're asking. You know, what? What things do you think about seeing on it like I don't know anything to where it's like, you know, super memorable. Yeah.
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Mike Padron: The green mile, by the way, is a hole 1617 and 18.
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Mike Padron: There we go, hey? There you go!
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Mike Padron: Fun! Fact! It's actually only 7 tenths of a mile, to be exact.
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Jesse Stakes: Gotcha.
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Mike Padron: And somebody here says, if you add 577 yard par the 15th hole, then it becomes a full mile. So if you add the 15th hole that you got yourself an actual green mile.
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Jesse Stakes: Padron. I guarantee you that I could make it into 3 miles by hitting it right and left.
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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, exactly.
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Mike Padron: This year. It's a long course man, I mean, we're just talking. Par 71, 7,626 yards. That was a par 71.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: That's a lot, of course, but it's not a 289 par 3. I don't know.
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Mike Padron: That's true. That's true.
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Wes Altice Golf: So.
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Jesse Stakes: 289 yard par. 3. What you boys hitting Blakely? What do you got off the tee on a 289 yard par. 3.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: I'm hitting the driver, baby. I'm hitting the fast by Callaway.
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Wes Altice Golf: And.
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Mike Padron: Depends on where the trouble is, I guess. Probably driver as well, if not worst case. Mini driver.
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Jesse Stakes: All this? Yeah.
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Wes Altice Golf: driver. Maybe Ropa 3 would. I don't know it, depend on the conditions, because I think that holds actually a little downhill, too.
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Jesse Stakes: So I'm probably going 7 iron laying up
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Jesse Stakes: and then hitting a lab wedge in from there. That's probably.
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Mike Padron: And you probably you probably outscored. But all 3 of us doing this.
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Wes Altice Golf: Probably the proper place.
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Jesse Stakes: Yeah.
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Mike Padron: I mean Hole 17 in the green mile is 223 yards. So
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Mike Padron: I mean, that's a that's a 7 iron for some of these guys, but that's still, that's pretty good ways.
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Jesse Stakes: But what do you think? I mean honestly, like part threes that are kind of ridiculously long, do you? I mean, do you like from a design standpoint, or your enjoyment of playing it.
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Jesse Stakes: Blakely, do you do you? And do you enjoy a long par 3, or do you think it's kind of like,
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Yeah, I don't enjoy it. I kind of feel about the 230 yard. Par 3. How you boys felt about
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: what whole 6 or 7 in the Highlands, you know it's just a gimmick.
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Wes Altice Golf: Ha-ka.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Yeah, yeah.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: like, okay, so we're out here. Playing target office is supposed to be a par 3. I can hit the ball 233 yards, but it's not gonna be able to stop right by the PIN. I can't check it up. There's no the only skill in that is how far can you hit it for me? Because I'm not that good of a player? I I you know I want something. That's, you know, 200, Max, right? So I can take a nice little iron in there.
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Jesse Stakes: Right.
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Jesse Stakes: Wes. What about you?
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Wes Altice Golf: I'm not a I'm not the biggest fan. I think I can recall more memorable short part threes than I can long part threes, and I think you go through the
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Wes Altice Golf: by the history of golf and just name iconic part threes. And they're not 2, 2232, 40.
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Wes Altice Golf: So I
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Wes Altice Golf: I think you're kind of wasting some space to be honest. I can understand you. You put it out there for the pros
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Wes Altice Golf: that they need to be tested on that, and I get that. But as far as the everyday player
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Wes Altice Golf: I mean anything over 1 80, I think, for most players is asking a lot.
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Wes Altice Golf: But yeah, I I mean, I can just flash back to when we were out at abandoned and played the part. 3 course out there. Those are some of the best part threes
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Wes Altice Golf: collectively. You'll ever play, and it'll test you. It's not easy, so it's a well designed par 3.
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Wes Altice Golf: You can get it. A buck, 40 buck, 50. And you're gonna challenge everyone.
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Jesse Stakes: 100%. I agree with that. What do you think, Mike?
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Mike Padron: Yeah, no, I'm I'm total agreement there. Well, you know, it's cool this weekend, the truest what that one part 3 was it? I don't like.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: 93 yards, or something.
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Mike Padron: Yards, or something like that I was playing on Sunday. Oh, that's awesome. I think that was so cool and they weren't. It's not like they were just sticking it and tapping in for Birdie. I mean, it's you put a right PIN placement there. It's a tough hole, no matter what, so I don't like the long ones. I mean I it's the there's on Quail Hollow. There's going to be 4 of them. The shortest is 1, 84.
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Jesse Stakes: Right.
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Mike Padron: The other 3. The other 3 are all over 200,
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Mike Padron: 2, 49 is the longest, and that's the the par. 3, 6.
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Jesse Stakes: 2 89 right.
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Mike Padron: 2, 49.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: The Api is in
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Mike Padron: Us! Open.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Beaumont. Yeah.
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Jesse Stakes: Yeah, yeah.
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Wes Altice Golf: Almost 289.
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Mike Padron: Now 249. It could play a little longer. It could play a little shorter, funny story. He was talking about the bandit. I don't know if you remember Wes, the Par. 3
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Mike Padron: 11, th I want to say, or 12th on trails, and I walked up to it, and I said, All right. So this is a drivable part 4, and the guy goes. No, this is a part of 3. I was like, you gotta be kidding me, man.
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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah.
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Mike Padron: And he goes. And actually, it's the easiest hole in the course I was like, What are you?
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Mike Padron: Yeah, I was blown away, man. I was hitting. I think it was hitting a hybrid, or or even a 3, would, I think, into it. And it was 18 handicap on the course, on banded trails, and I was just blown away. I have no idea how that was how that even was possible. But that's crazy. Yeah, I'm not a fan of long. Par 3, I think. 200. Max man.
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Mike Padron: it's a nice little 5 or 6 iron, and you're good to go.
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Jesse Stakes: I'll tell you for me I what I would love to see, and I don't. I don't see them do this much in in professional golf tournaments. I'd love to see them utilize like every T box that they have, and.
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Jesse Stakes: And make it to where, like one day, maybe, it does play 250 yards. But then the next day, all of a sudden. It's 140 yards, or it's, you know, it's like ridiculously different every single day. I would love to see like to me. That would be really cool is that if you completely change the test on those par threes, every single chance that they get to see them, so that every shot that they have during the round, like as far as a tee shot from those par threes. It never looks the same that would be really cool to me.
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Mike Padron: Yeah, that's.
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Jesse Stakes: That's a that's a great idea, especially like you said on these really long part threes that would be really fun to watch, especially just as a viewer. You don't know where they're going to be playing.
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Wes Altice Golf: You'll find out when the.
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Jesse Stakes: It makes it a totally different yeah, totally different.
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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, I'd like that.
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Jesse Stakes: So we mentioned it like kind of upfront when we were talking about the course. But you know Quail Hollow was a fully private place like. It's not somewhere that any of us could go up there without knowing somebody or without getting invited. We couldn't go play the course
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Jesse Stakes: like, do you feel that when these majors are at private venues versus public courses, where you you know, people can relate to them, people could actually go play them, you know, even though Pebble Beach is a ridiculous, you know, a ridiculous green fee, and it costs you 2 nights. You have to stay at the Lodge there. If you wanted to go play pebble, you can go play pebble so like when it when you you know.
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Jesse Stakes: padre, and when you see these things that are at a private course. Does it make you look at them and say, man, I'd love to play there someday, or does it make you kind of. Say, I can't really relate to that. It's, you know, it's it's not as cool, not as fun.
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Mike Padron: I love being able to sit down and watch a tournament and be like.
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Mike Padron: Hey, on that hole right there, and point out to my wife or kids and be like, you see that tree 300 yards right. That's where I was on this hole. And I was punching out over here like I actually enjoy.
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Mike Padron: Yeah.
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Mike Padron: enjoy being able to tell them like, this is where I hit it in the water right there.
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Mike Padron: You know, I love being able to watch a tournament knowing. Obviously, you're not technically, you're playing the same course, but it's a whole different course. I mean you. We we played last week, and we played stating, course we missed you, Jesse.
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Mike Padron: We played stadium course, and you look back at those professional tees, and you're like jeez man. I don't even
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Mike Padron: I don't even know how they do it from back there. So it's it is a different course. But you get to go through it, and you know that you know the Bunkers. You know
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Mike Padron: where shots are going. You know it's it's so much different watching a tournament, knowing the course, obviously ultra exclusive. And they have what? 350 members at
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Mike Padron: roughly a quail hollow, I mean, that's that's rather small. I think it is. So it's it's a pretty exclusive course, and not a lot of people know it. The only thing is it does you do get to play it every you see it every year on the tournament. So you do get to know some of the courses or some of the holes. And
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Mike Padron: I mean, obviously, I'm looking at it this year will be a little different, because it's more memorable than just a regular wells. Fargo, the truest being a major. But I do. I do. I love playing
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Mike Padron: a course that obviously we haven't done a ton of them. But love being able to watch course on TV that you've actually played yourself. I'm a huge fan of that.
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Jesse Stakes: No doubt. Wes, what do you think.
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Wes Altice Golf: I'm 50 50 on it. I do like what kind of Mike was saying that, you know. Oh, I remember when Tiger hit this shot from here, and you know, Tbc. Sawgrass, or
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Wes Altice Golf: you can kind of relive some of those moments and be put in the moment. But the same time, it's kind of cool to see a course that you'll probably never have the opportunity. Set your feet on. So you know. See what's out there. See the differences in the design, because I'm I love the design aspect of things so.
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Wes Altice Golf: but I guess if I had to choose, I would like to be able to see places that you would
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Wes Altice Golf: be able to play. And I think, you know, I think that's where maybe the Tj. Should kind of differentiate themselves a little bit, and maybe try and do way more of that, just, you know, sprinkle in
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Wes Altice Golf: a private here and there, because the Us. Open kind of has that
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Wes Altice Golf: on lock. They have been trying to go to more public places. But us opens always. Kind of known, aren't. We're gonna go play the ultra super private. You know, old school design courses. And that's our thing. And we're gonna trick them up and screw with these guys. But yeah, I I enjoy it either way. But if I had to lean one way or the other, I definitely like seeing courses that
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Wes Altice Golf: people can go out and play.
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Jesse Stakes: Right, Blakely, I'm gonna change it up a little bit for you. Would you rather see a PGA championship that like, let's say, it's on a completely public course, like a like if they if they took like a Jack's Beach, you know, like Jacksonville Beach for people who live in Jacksonville, Florida
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Jesse Stakes: like, where it's a completely public course to where everybody and their mother can play it. It's a you know. It's a fair price. Anybody can afford to play it, but then they they shut it down, they tricked it up, or they made it, you know, as good as they possibly could for professionals to go out and play, and I know I'm using kind of an exaggerated public.
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Jesse Stakes: Yes.
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Jesse Stakes: but like, would you rather see something like that and say, All right. Let's see how good these guys are on a track that I've played, you know, a million times versus
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Jesse Stakes: something again, ultra private that you'll you'll never put your feet on.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Yeah, no, that's interesting question. I feel like they did that this year they played a event, and it was like a $35 course, or something like that. I can't think of the name of it.
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Wes Altice Golf: Oh, yeah, it was one of the
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Wes Altice Golf: the Texas one of the Texas.
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Mike Padron: Oh, yeah.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Yeah. It was out in Texas.
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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, yeah.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: And I mean, I actually thought it was very cool that they went out there. And it said, Hey, well, this is just a normal course out here in Texas, and these guys went out there and dominated it. It would be even cooler to me if I had played it. I kind of think that for me. I like to watch golf. I like to watch athletes do something that you know I go out and try to do on the range and cannot reproduce
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: whether or not they're playing at a place I have played at, or that I'm able to go to. I just like to watch it now when I'm when it's at a course that I've been on.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Yeah, it has a different feeling to me. But I don't enjoy it any more or less. I can just, I guess, relate to certain aspects of it a little bit.
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Jesse Stakes: Right.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: I enjoy both of them, and I would like to watch. I did enjoy watching them go to a normal course, but I've never been there before.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Sure. Okay.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: kind of still awash for me. It was like watching them play at a course I've not gone to.
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Jesse Stakes: Fair enough play. What like 40 ish events a year.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: I I do not play that much golf, so I'm not gonna be making it to half of these courses.
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Jesse Stakes: I always think it's it's to me like I feel the same way like, and it doesn't even necessarily. I don't even necessarily have had to have played the course, but I really do like it when it's when they're playing somewhere that I've been. And it was like the 1st time I ever got to go see a practice round of the masters like. I felt like every time that I watched the masters, and it was totally different, because I actually knew how much undulation, or how much elevation change there was from T to green, or like.
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Jesse Stakes: You know how much slope there was on certain things, whereas on television it doesn't. You can't necessarily always see it because they don't put the TV cameras at, you know, at ground level to where you're actually seeing, you know what what that looks like. You'd get that kind of elevated or perched. Look at it. And so it sometimes.
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Jesse Stakes: Sometimes it's kind of vanilla like it. It's like we can hear that now. And if you got great announcers that are describing it to you, that's fantastic. But it's like sometimes it really doesn't matter other than what your what your eyes are able to absorb from the television set. Yes, Wes, do you think that this course
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Jesse Stakes: does it favor one type of player over another, having the PGA championship here this year?
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Wes Altice Golf: I mean, looking back at some of the winners that
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Wes Altice Golf: the quail hollow. There's definitely a theme of a
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Wes Altice Golf: some good drivers with some distance. I mean, you go back.
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Wes Altice Golf: Here's your like last few winners. It's Rory Wyndham, Rory, Max, Oma, Jason Day.
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Wes Altice Golf: and then you throw Brian Harmon in there, which is, you know, whatever.
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Mike Padron: Easy.
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Wes Altice Golf: But yeah, it's crazy. And then jt, one in 2017. So I think, I think it.
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Jesse Stakes: Rory, is what you're saying.
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Wes Altice Golf: Roy. Well, I think the way Roy's playing right now. He's just it's kinda yeah.
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Mike Padron: I'd be the 1st pick off the board here.
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Wes Altice Golf: I mean everyone I mean Rory's won here 4 times.
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Wes Altice Golf: And yeah, I mean, so I mean, it's just like holy crap. He's kind of have a.
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Wes Altice Golf: It's just kind of the prototype right now.
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Jesse Stakes: Like a home game for him.
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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, I I think I just think
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Wes Altice Golf: iron game, and then also getting off the T, so T to green, I think, is
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Wes Altice Golf: the combination for this course.
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Jesse Stakes: I know they were talking about it the other night on TV, and they were talking about how Bryson Dechambeau, and probably you'd have to throw Roy in the same mix because he hits it pretty much just as far. But, Dechambeau, they're talking about like how there were several holes to where he could absolutely bomb it over one of the
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Jesse Stakes: like. Some of the some of the dog legs like just basically cut them off. And just like 500 yard. They were talking about some of the holes that are potentially 500 yards, that he could potentially go driver, wedge, or driver, lob, wedge into some of them. But, Drone, you were raising your hand there, I don't know.
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Mike Padron: No, no, I was not raising my hand. Sorry I was turning on my TV.
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Wes Altice Golf: I was trying to.
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Mike Padron: I was. I forgot you reminded me of live from is on right now. So I was like.
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Jesse Stakes: That's true.
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Mike Padron: I was researching it. Man 2025 is obviously private. 2026, aronuminc.
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Jesse Stakes: Automatic.
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Mike Padron: Ultra private 2027 is considered PGA. Frisco is a public private venture, so you can technically play it
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Mike Padron: and then rest of them. Olympic Club, Balta Straw Congressional.
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Mike Padron: Not until 2020, not until 2031. Well, we have a course we 100% have played, and that's Kiowa Island, or, as somebody on Internet the other day called it, Kiawa.
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Mike Padron: Yeah.
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Mike Padron: which absolutely blew my mind that they would pronounce it that way. But 2031 Keo Island. There you go!
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Jesse Stakes: Very cool. So I guess with that I'm gonna turn it over to you, Mike. Before we wrap this up. We've got picks for the week.
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Mike Padron: Alright, and you'll have to bear with me because I do have Shelton's 1st pick.
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Mike Padron: 1st 2 picks. So obviously, Blakely takes one
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Mike Padron: I got the other, and then I'll have to text him while we're all picking
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Mike Padron: so results from a lot from master standings. Altus is, in 1st place by a lot 4 point. He's at 4.4 million with a Mcelroy win.
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Mike Padron: I am at 1.3 million
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Mike Padron: stakes is a 3rd of 1.1 Shelton with a million, and Blakely at 361 K.
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Mike Padron: Thanks.
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Mike Padron: But hey, one win, one win, and you're obviously back in it pretty quickly a hundred percent.
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Mike Padron: So, Blake, we're going to do the way this works now before it was random Draw. Now, now we're working backwards. So Blakely will pick first.st We'll go from last to first, st and then do the snake draft right back, and Blakely will pick last as well. So, Blakely, this is your pick. You cannot go with Colin Morikawa or Cam Smith. Sorry.
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Wes Altice Golf: This week. So.
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Mike Padron: What you got, Bud.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Rory, man. He's won here before he hits it far. He's playing well, there's only one or 2 people that have won twice on tour. So
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: that's low.
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Mike Padron: That's
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Mike Padron: 1st pick back to back weeks, and that's got it got West 4.2 million. So that's hopefully
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Mike Padron: same for you. So Shelton. His 1st 2 picks were. Rory obviously was. Fort was one, and he said Bryson would be his second pick. So he is getting Bryson Dechambeau
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Mike Padron: and cutting off those dog legs all week. That might be a pretty damn good pick.
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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah.
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Mike Padron: To Jesse, you're up.
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Jesse Stakes: I guess I'm gonna have to go with Scotty Scheffler.
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Jesse Stakes: Yeah.
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Jesse Stakes: One last. Well, thank you.
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Jesse Stakes: Weeks ago.
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Mike Padron: You can't go, Bryson, even if you want to, because you went Bryson's speech last time. And Shelton went Scheffler Koepka, so he couldn't have gone Scotty.
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Mike Padron: So I'm gonna text him real quick. Just let him know to give me about 4 more picks
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Mike Padron: that way. We can do it
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Mike Padron: And then, so I'm up here.
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Mike Padron: I wanted all 3 of those guys, and actually I love Ludwig Oberg this week. But unfortunately I picked him last time
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Mike Padron: I am going to go with Colin Morkow.
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Mike Padron: I think he he's not the longest hitter in the world, but he is number one in strokes gained off the tee with accuracy. He's a 78% or something this year is number one in the PGA tour. So
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Mike Padron: I think you're going to have to have some accuracy this week as well, and he's he's always a good with his iron. So let's go call him and, Wes. You're up. You cannot pick Rory or Tommy.
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Wes Altice Golf: I am going to go with a Jt.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Hmm.
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Wes Altice Golf: I like the way he's been striking the ball, and his approach play is starting to heat up, and that putter starting to
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Wes Altice Golf: get a little hot, too, so I like I like jt here previous winter.
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Wes Altice Golf: Oh, boy.
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Mike Padron: You have back to back picks.
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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, you know what? I'm gonna go
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Wes Altice Golf: a little bit off the wall here, and I'm gonna go with Sunjae.
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Mike Padron: Hmm, yeah.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: I thought you were. Gonna say, Cam. Smith.
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Mike Padron: That off at all.
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Wes Altice Golf: Shit.
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Mike Padron: Hmm!
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Mike Padron: And hey, we're just. We're just all saving Camp Smith for the Open Championship.
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Mike Padron: That's what I thought.
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Mike Padron: So.
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Mike Padron: All right. So Jt.
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Mike Padron: And Sanjay. I'm also going a little off, because he's had a very good record here.
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Mike Padron: and he could get extremely hot. But his his cuts record here, and that's where we need to just keep making money.
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Mike Padron: And that's Hideki Matsuyama.
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Mike Padron: I'm going to go with a decky as my second pick here.
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Mike Padron: And, Jesse. I hope you don't pick one of Shelton's, because then I'm gonna have to text him back.
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Jesse Stakes: I'm.
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Mike Padron: Go ahead!
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Jesse Stakes: I'm kind of stuck between 2 people, but I love the way he got fired up in his press conference at the end of the week this past week. I'm going to go with Shane Lowry.
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Mike Padron: I love it.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Man.
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Jesse Stakes: Very nice.
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Jesse Stakes: I love.
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Mike Padron: They're really good.
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Jesse Stakes: Well, I love the way he got so fired up because it's like I mean Rory's his boy. They're friends, but it's like he was he? He just you know he was passionate. He cared about the fact that he lost even down the stretch, and it just lit a fire under him when they were just all they wanted to do was talk about Rory, and I just thought it was like I was like, you know what that dude's. I like him, anyways, but I was like he's he's gonna he's gonna do something here soon. So.
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Wes Altice Golf: And you know what shame on the the media for that. It's the 3rd freaking round like, what are you doing like.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Yeah.
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Wes Altice Golf: All those guys should have got their credentials taken away from Augusta until next year.
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Wes Altice Golf: They they are out next year. They can't come on premises. That's the most boneheaded thing you could ever do
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Wes Altice Golf: to an athlete in the heat of the moment is talk about someone else that was just
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Wes Altice Golf: borderline just retarded.
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Jesse Stakes: And they did it for 20 years when Tiger was when Tiger was relevant, you know, and not saying that he's not relevant now. But when he was playing on a regular basis, anybody who stepped in front of a mic was asked about Tiger Woods, so.
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Jesse Stakes: Hmm, well, I I really appreciate you guys stalling there because I.
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Mike Padron: I had to get like 3 or 4 clarity questions, clarifying questions from Shelton texting. So he
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Mike Padron: So he's going to go with Xander Shoffley as his second pick here so round.
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Mike Padron: Blakely, to you for the final pick.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: I'll go with Ludwig.
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Mike Padron: Yeah, I, like it.
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Jesse Stakes: Nice.
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Wes Altice Golf: Very nice.
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Mike Padron: I think Oberg can have a really good week, and he's due here pretty soon. I mean, Rory Oberg is pretty pretty solid there for Blakely. Yeah. Shelton picked Bryson and Xander
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Mike Padron: Jesse with Scottie and Shane Lowry. I took Colin and Matsuyama, and Wes has got Jt. And Sung. Jm.
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Mike Padron: Good picks boys.
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Jesse Stakes: I don't hate any of that.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: At all. Yeah.
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Wes Altice Golf: It'll be interesting.
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Mike Padron: Man, I'm telling you. The wind is huge.
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Wes Altice Golf: When is everything?
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Mike Padron: We had some really good, I think 2 of our. So we got 2, 4, 6, 10 players we picked last time for the masters. Only 2 missed the cut.
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Mike Padron: and Wes is up by 3,000,003.2 million. So
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Mike Padron: it's you gotta you gotta have a win man.
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Wes Altice Golf: Wind is heavy.
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Jesse Stakes: 100%.
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Mike Padron: But great pitch.
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Jesse Stakes: All right, boys, you got anything else before we wrap up here.
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Mike Padron: No.
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Wes Altice Golf: No, I think we are golden.
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Jesse Stakes: Well as always, I appreciate you guys joining cheers.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Cheers.
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Wes Altice Golf: Channel is.
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Jesse Stakes: Hope everybody enjoys the PGA championship, and we'll catch you all down the road.
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Mike Padron: Yes, sir.
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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Good to see you.