Tin Cup 2025 - McLemore Resort

The boys from the Tin Cup Club stop by the show to talk about their 2025 trip, thoughts on the McLemore Resort, and how it was to do a buddy's trip on Masters Weekend.

According to the National Golf Foundation, over 12 million U.S. adults embarked on golf trips last year, marking a 20% increase over the historical average and expected to grow. This surge reflects a growing desire for experiential travel, with golf. The Buffalo Groupe reported 44% of their survey plans to increase golf travel spending in 2025. The growth is driven by the increasing popularity of golf as a leisure activity and the development of golf tourism infrastructure worldwide.

Key Insights:

• Market Size & Growth: The global golf tourism market was valued at approximately $25.34 billion in 2024 and is projected to grow at a CAGR of 9.1% from 2025 to 2030.
• Popular Destinations: Countries like Scotland, the United States, Spain, and Thailand are renowned for their prestigious golf courses and scenic landscapes.
• Economic Impact: In the U.S., golf tourism is a $6 billion industry, with $4 billion coming from international visitors.
• Trends & Innovations: The industry is seeing a rise in experiential travel, luxury golf resorts, and eco-friendly practices to attract environmentally conscious travelers.
• Government Support: Many governments are investing in golf tourism to boost local economies. For instance, Canada allocated $4.4 million to promote professional golf tournaments.

Golf tourism is expected to expand significantly, driven by increasing interest in outdoor sports, government funding, and the growing number of young golfers. 

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Jesse Stakes: Hey, everybody! Welcome to making sense of it all. I have the Tin Cup Club joining me today, Chris Blakely. Thank you so much for joining me.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Happy to be back.

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Jesse Stakes: Wes always a pleasure.

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Wes Altice Golf: Pleasure is mine, my man.

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Jesse Stakes: Michael Shelton. Thank you once again.

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Michael Shelton: It would be more fun if I had the trophy that you have right now. But thank you for having me.

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Jesse Stakes: And Mike Padron. I was just about to ask you who won Tin Cup this year.

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Mike Padron: Yes, sir, team. Europe won 4th in a row, so it looks like 10 cups is going to be streaky. It'll be, you know, 3 or 4 for U.S.A, then 3 or 4 for Europe, and it's just

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Mike Padron: unlike the actual Ryder cup. I guess.

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Jesse Stakes: You don't really have to mention what the Us did like 10 years ago. I mean, we're just. We're living in the now.

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Mike Padron: That's true. That's true, that's all that matters. What have you done for me lately? I guess.

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Jesse Stakes: Shelton. I'm going to give you a chance to just express your feelings about that.

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Michael Shelton: It's it's I don't like the losing streak but I think the mission of this trip has been accomplished getting this group of guys together doesn't matter. The venue doesn't matter the place getting together the competition, but just really hanging out with each other. So I mean, win or lose. It is still a good trip, and still what I'm looking forward to for next year.

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Jesse Stakes: That's a hell of a participation trophy. Answer right there. I like it a lot.

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Jesse Stakes: Hey? I've got. I got a guy that's actually on our team that would be absolutely willing to give you lessons. He is not that far down the street from you. I want to say this up front. Wes Altus is now teaching at St. John's Golf and Country Club, in Jacksonville, Florida. Congratulations West.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: What I'm talking about.

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Wes Altice Golf: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It's a nice change of pace. Got a great practice facility. Got some awesome junior programs going on. I actually just came in hot from being on the course with some of the kids. So it's a it's a great change of pace. I'm gonna be really offer some more options for my students, so

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Wes Altice Golf: more more good things to come.

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Jesse Stakes: You actually get to teach on real grass. Now.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, it's a it's a shocker. No more no more match.

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Mike Padron: I'm not sure if those greens are grass right now.

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Wes Altice Golf: No, they're not.

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Mike Padron: They're not.

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Wes Altice Golf: Like 13 or 14 on the step. But yeah.

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Jesse Stakes: Blakely. You were also on the on the wrong end of this stick that you got taken to task with this past couple of weekends ago. How did that feel to you?

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Well, I hated it. Participation trophies. I mean, I think we went out there and

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: you know we got way too far behind the second day. And it's hard to come back from that on the 3rd day

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: with, you know, such a big gap. But hey, my hats off to you. You won again.

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Jesse Stakes: Hey? You know what's funny is like, I see, you know, there's a couple of guys guy named Kevin Gels, that's up there in Atlanta. He's already bought himself a new putter. I think he's already getting ready for next year.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Oh, yeah, no. I mean the guy. The grind doesn't stop with this fella.

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Jesse Stakes: So let's jump right into it, guys. Let's see what you drinking.

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Jesse Stakes: We'll go around the Horn padron. What do you got.

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Mike Padron: I've got a little smoke wagon from Las Vegas.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: From from Nevada. I got that up on.

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Mike Padron: Yeah, nice. It is very, very good

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Mike Padron: kind of some. It's high proof which is fine with me. But it's a excellent, excellent Bourbon.

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Jesse Stakes: Very cool, Sheldon. What do you got.

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Michael Shelton: I guess, since we need to show the bottle, I have a little Jefferson's reserve Twin Oak custom barrel. It says very rare, which I doubt, because I have it.

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Wes Altice Golf: Oh!

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Michael Shelton: It is it is. It is quite tasty.

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Jesse Stakes: Altus.

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Wes Altice Golf: Well, I'm actually drinking a bottle of the old voice, Forrester, that Jesse was so kindly to give to me as my winning prize from our little bet from the the match.

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Jesse Stakes: Call.

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Wes Altice Golf: And mackerel. Yeah, very tasty. Great choice.

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Jesse Stakes: Old forester, 1910. It's 1 of my favorite bottles of Bourbon.

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Jesse Stakes: Frankly, what you got.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: I've got eagle rare. The 10

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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Food drinker. I like it.

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Jesse Stakes: Very cool.

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Wes Altice Golf: Sir.

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Jesse Stakes: I have departed from my world journey, and I am back into Kentucky. I am.

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Jesse Stakes: and drinking angels envy today. So cheers, boys, it's.

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Mike Padron: Was that Turkish? Wasn't that the Turkish one you were talking about?

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Wes Altice Golf: I was like.

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Mike Padron: Turkey.

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Wes Altice Golf: Okay.

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Jesse Stakes: Hey? Just so, you know, before before we started this I had a I had a drink in my hands from New Zealand. It was a single malt from New Zealand, and it tasted like pure rubbing alcohol. I was like, I've got to retreat to the United States. I cannot drink this.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, come back to us.

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Mike Padron: I can't believe none of us got a Chattanooga whiskey to drink tonight.

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Jesse Stakes: I think we can.

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Jesse Stakes: Well, that.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah.

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Mike Padron: And so I had, because I don't.

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Michael Shelton: I have 2 bottles of Tennessee, but one was in Columbia, Tennessee, and one was in Nashville, so I didn't feel comfortable breaking that out, disrupting the Chattanooga Bourbon.

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Jesse Stakes: I thought it was pretty good I had. I bought a bottle for the house. I don't know how many people got to try it, but I thought it was. I didn't think it was bad at all.

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Mike Padron: It was very in the airport, had, like a thousand bottles of it.

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Jesse Stakes: Of course I do.

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Jesse Stakes: So along those lines, Macklemore. That's where we're at. I'll throw it around, Blakely. What do you think of Macklemore?

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Well, I mean, I thought it was a pretty neat place you're up there in the middle of nowhere, and you were on top of a mountain. The views on all the holes.

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Jesse Stakes: Foothills.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Were awesome especially at the keep. You really couldn't beat that the

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: facilities that they had at the main course at the Highlands with a driving range right there. It had a nice little clubhouse and area to eat, and then I like the little tiny part 3 they had.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: I thought that the layout and I know I'm I'm a big layout guy. I thought the layout was pretty cool. It was fun the first, st maybe

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: maybe half of the 1st 7 or 6 holes on the Highlands. They're all blind shots. Makes it kind of difficult when it's your 1st time out there playing a little bit frustrated by that, and then we came right after a big rain. It's still early in April.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: I felt like the grass at the Highlands just wasn't grown in, and I think could have had a better round if if it was later in the year, and everything looked a little better. Maybe the drainage was better. But you know that's only bad things I really have to say about it. I thought I really liked that. The keep.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: I think that's going to be an amazing course in a couple of years. It's so open. Every shot is is picturesque, and it's really fun. The greens out there are rolling fast and true, and it was. It was a great day walking, even if we had to walk 36 with the boys. It was a good time.

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Jesse Stakes: Right. But, Drone, what do you think.

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Mike Padron: I mean, I'm kind of in agreement with him on this one. The Highlands was for something we're used to down here in Florida. We don't get any of that. We get no elevation. We get absolutely nothing. That 1st he shot you're going straight down the hill.

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Mike Padron: and it's just a beautiful view. And then on that 1st green was what really surprised me. I wasn't. I wasn't thinking we're going to get really good views until you know, we kind of got it back out to like, you know, 1718 in that area.

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Mike Padron: But, man, we stood on that 1st green, and I looked over my shoulder. I'm like holy cow. You're just looking straight down into that valley, and it just it was gorgeous man kind of blew me away. And then, just the way the layout was. I get the whole. There's 1 hole, I believe it's 6 par 5 with the cliff.

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Mike Padron: It's just. It's just a goofy golf hole, I mean you can't. It? Says 3 13 of the ravine, and we're hitting hybrids, and they're gone, and it's just it doesn't make any sense to me. Then you have a completely blind second shot going down. What what do you think is that 500 feet at least.

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Mike Padron: Just.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: That's it.

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Mike Padron: It was just a crazy crazy hole, and then, you know, and then I was blown away when we when we drove over. So the thing you don't realize when we we had heard a little bit about it, but you got to get on a shuttle and drive over to the keep. It's probably, you know, 2, 3, mile drive. You're there in probably 5 min, and you you go back a little windy road, and

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Mike Padron: it is as soon as you pull in that property it's blown away. You're like, Oh, man, this is gorgeous, you know. I got the. We got the pleasure of you of us to play in sheep ranch out in Bandon, and it is to me it reminded me, as soon as we pull in of Sheep ranch. But instead of an ocean. It's it's cliffs and a valley, but it is very similar kind of layout. You're seeing a bunch of holes at once. You see people playing all over the place. You're not going to get in too much trouble.

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Mike Padron: especially with the free relief, apparently, that the local rule there. But I was blown away by the keep. I think, like, Blakely said, it's going to be absolutely beautiful, and you can see some of the grass hadn't grown in yet, you know, but the greens were in excellent shape, and it was just.

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Mike Padron: It absolutely blew me away. I could play that one every single I could do without playing the Highlands next time I go, and I would just play the keep on, maybe not 36 in a day. But I'm going to play that quite a bit next time to go that way.

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Jesse Stakes: Yeah. Shelton, what about you?

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Michael Shelton: I think the Highlands course, I mean, it's a nice little layout. It's something different for us. It's obviously what put Macklemore on the map, I mean probably whole number 18 in itself. But again, like we were early in the year. A lot of rain we had a what a 1015 min hailstorm out of nowhere

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Michael Shelton: on the mountain only, and with all those shots it's it's not much of a resort course, like, I think, resort courses open so many blind shots. I mean, it was. It's really difficult. But obviously you got to give it credit because it's what put it on the map. What they have in the keep could be special.

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Michael Shelton: Like you said, with the very Bandon-esque, I think what they, the opportunity they have there is. They learn from what they have now. It. It could be one of the I mean the top courses I've played. We've talked about our top courses each time, and I would definitely put it up there, going back to Padron's Point about the free relief. Right? We're still under preview play

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Michael Shelton: so they're still working out a lot of the keys for that. It's not supposed to be open for a few months, and I was talking to one of the head guys as we were waiting in between rounds, and he was kind of giving the the pros and cons. He's like, yeah, you know, the Highlands course like you come back in May, June. Once all the grass grows in. He's like, you'll have a totally different experience. And then again, they're still trying to play with that key. But I think like padron, said the the layout of the keep, the walkability of it. I I think they have something special in their hands.

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Jesse Stakes: Nice, and I intentionally left you last Wes.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, So

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Wes Altice Golf: I'm just putting on my been in the business for so long hat when I'm looking at this

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Wes Altice Golf: the keep.

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Wes Altice Golf: I mean, I you guys have said enough. That place was absolutely spectacular. I would play there probably every single round.

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Wes Altice Golf: Highlands.

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Wes Altice Golf: It's that's the nice way. It's golden tea. Golf is the way I like to describe it. You got blind shots. You can knock it off rocks and crap, and it it is what it is. The views were spectacular. I also give a

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Wes Altice Golf: you know, kudos to the guys over at the keep. You know, they're working out of a trailer. But as soon as we came off the bus we were greeted. Our caddies were there kind of waiting for us. So that was a nice experience. I feel like we didn't get that when we went over to Highlands. It was kind of like.

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Wes Altice Golf: yeah, you guys are here. And that was kind of it. Felt like we were in the way a little bit there. The restaurant we ate opening night

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Wes Altice Golf: spectacular those are the pork burnt ends.

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Mike Padron: Yeah.

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Wes Altice Golf: Absolute.

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Wes Altice Golf: They were not bad. Oh, my gosh!

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Wes Altice Golf: Like you! You could order like 2 or 3 plates of those, and you'd be just be good.

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Wes Altice Golf: But yeah, I I mean, I understand why the Highlands is, you know, touted those views. I mean some of the best you'll see outside of what's on the keep. But yeah, if I had 5 rounds I'd play 4 and a half of them at

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Wes Altice Golf: at the keep for reasons I won't get into just some inconsistencies. And yeah, that's kinda

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Wes Altice Golf: my toned down version of it.

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Jesse Stakes: Well, I'll tell you. You know it's interesting because I and I shared it with you guys. You knew I had been up to the Highlands course. Once before, when they had 1st opened, they did the friends of Macklemore invite that they did on Facebook, and me and my wife were going to Nashville, so I stopped. We stopped on the way to Nashville, and I got to play the course.

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Jesse Stakes: I think Golden T. Golf is a great way to put it because it's like, I mean, for for somebody who's out there looking for

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Jesse Stakes: something beautiful like, you know that you know a walk in nature. I mean you're it's it's all you could ask for. I mean, it's it's a beautiful venue. It's a gorgeous neighborhood you've got. You've got you know elevated tee shots you've got, you know, vistas as far as the eye can see over the valley like I mean, like there's a there's a lot to offer. If you're looking for just, you know, just an enjoyable walk in nature and playing golf while you're doing it.

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Jesse Stakes: If you're looking at the specifics, you know as you as you've mentioned, Wes, I mean, like there's certain things about the course that are maybe inconsistent. There are some chat like there's some things that I think that they could. They could probably fix around the course. That would probably make it a lot more enjoyable of a round of golf.

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Jesse Stakes: But but I think there's a lot of people I think there's a there's a whole lot of people that if you said, Hey, it's Golden T golf, that's kind of it kind of excites them. I mean they they want to, I mean, that's and I'd be a liar to say like, I mean, that's kind of like Wolf Creek out in Vegas. I mean, you want to talk about golden T. Golf. That's what it is. I mean, it's I mean, you're you're playing a video game essentially on turf.

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Jesse Stakes: I would say the same thing to keep to me was, I mean, it was a fantastic golf course. I think that like I think we're seeing it. I mean, they're like you could see all the sod that's been laid. They had a really harsh winter, so a lot of the sod didn't take, so we're getting it in its infancy. But the but the course I mean the layout of the course is awesome. I mean, like I'd love to play it in 5 years and just see and see.

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Jesse Stakes: Oh, yeah, years.

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Mike Padron: And what's cool, too. Sorry. Go ahead. I was. Gonna say, it was cool about the keep, too, and and he kind of hit the nail on the head there with the with the service. I felt like we were at a different resort, and we pulled up like you said they greeted us. Caddies were there, the inside and the little trailer. They have their own little kind of pro shop quote unquote.

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Mike Padron: The guy behind the counter was amazing with us, making sure we had everything we needed. They had 2 girls out on the cart the whole time, but after 9, because you don't finish 9 back at the front. You kind of finish out by the cliffs.

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Mike Padron: and you don't really come back until about 14. They had another trailer there with a couple tables. They had you. You got free drinks, not alcohol, because that would have been terrible free gatorade, free water. And then they had complimentary. What was it pimento, cheese, chicken salad? Or what was the 3.rd

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Wes Altice Golf: Egg salad.

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Mike Padron: The egg salad was insane. So you go in there and say, I want an egg salad. I want to. I want one of each, and they'll give you 3 sandwiches, and you go on your way. You get all the snacks you want you get, which was really cool, because it is inconvenient to be out there because there's nothing else out there. So for them to offer that to us and to anybody that plays out there was actually, really, really cool. The service there was. It was like, you're in a completely different world.

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Jesse Stakes: I mean I I don't know that I agree with that. I mean the hospitality on the keep my last round. There was not necessarily the best.

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Mike Padron: You just wasn't your caddy man.

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Jesse Stakes: Alone know that I can take responsibility for that. But no.

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Wes Altice Golf: Today.

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Michael Shelton: One out of 19, I'd say we did a pretty good job.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, that's funny.

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Jesse Stakes: In all fairness. He hit the wrong ball in all fairness room.

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Mike Padron: But but for opposing players, Caddy, to accuse Jesse on the other team of picking up a ball and putting in his pocket. That's bold man that is that is very, very bold, and I.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Where are we supposed to be.

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Wes Altice Golf: No, no, we play.

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Mike Padron: I get it like, if, like, we play band, and we have the same caddies for 4 days, 5 days. At the end of the 5th day, if something like that happened, and West's caddy would have turned to me and be like, Hey, dude! You just put down your pocket. I just laughed it off. But, man, you've only known the guy for what 8 holes, and he all of a sudden starts starts talking shit to you. I'm like oh, man, all right.

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Jesse Stakes: Well, in all, in all fairness we're we're playing a competition. And this dude really took it to heart that he was on Team U.S.A. I mean, he he decided. He was part of the team, and he was fighting everywhere he could to try to give his player an edge. And I I mean, I gotta salute him for that, too. So I mean.

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Jesse Stakes: You know. I mean if I if I look at it from that direction, he was doing his job. I hope I hope gals tipped him well.

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Michael Shelton: This is probably because gals paid him a hundred bucks to just call some controversy or something.

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Jesse Stakes: So all kidding aside, though, and I know we've kind of mentioned it, but you know. But, Drone, you were the one who did a lot of the legwork on this, as far as like usually typically you and Shelton do it together. But Shelton had a lot of work commitments, and so I know that you did a lot of the liaisoning between Macklemore and our group overall your thoughts on the hospitality, on the whole experience with them. What were your thoughts.

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Mike Padron: Well, I was like, you have a unique situation, because I always book like we look at start. Look, we start. We already booked next year. So it's we're a year out on some of these, because you kind of have to be. And Macklemore, I think Shelton and I were talking one day. I don't know if we were having wine or something. I don't know what he was like, and we even looked into Macklemore. I'm like, I don't. It's probably going to be too expensive, like there's no way. And I called, and it was actually.

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Mike Padron: very reasonably priced where I just I called him right away and said, We need to book this. This is a steal, and they got a second course coming up this and that booked it. That was easy. That was the easiest.

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Mike Padron: one of the easiest bookings we've done, and we were dealing with one guy, and I think, where a lot of it for me changed was we had we dealt with this guy for basically 11 months and one month before, maybe even 3 weeks before 10 cup, I get an email from him, saying, Hey, I'm leaving

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Mike Padron: for another job. And I'm like, Man, I've been talking to you for 11 months. I get it. I mean, these guys probably come and go all the time. So it kind of changed. I had to be switched to another guy who didn't really know me, didn't know the story didn't know what we do, so it was kind of like starting all over 3 weeks in or 3 weeks away, and

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Mike Padron: I think I think the overall experience was great, like Wes said. The one thing I wasn't that they did not do, that I think other resorts have done is, I mean I've been there where the minute I step out of my car

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Mike Padron: I will say to be fair, it wasn't the guy we were dealing with for 11 months. I don't know if it would have been different. Maybe they were going through some changes, and you know some of that changed. But overall it was good. I mean, the accommodations are great. Just

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Mike Padron: yeah. To let you guys know that like there's a they have a 5 bedroom house available which we had. They had a 3 bedroom house available, which Blakely stayed in, and then they have these 4 bedroom cottages, so everybody wanted their own room, so we kind of put everybody in a bedroom. So we had. We ended up adding an extra cottage.

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Mike Padron: but and those were over by the driving range. So everything is walkable. We all we basically, which was one of the criteria for Shelton and I was like, we want to park and not move the entire weekend. Besides, Wes going to get pizza, besides that which actually, the the previous guy had offered to go get that for us. So I was kind of.

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Mike Padron: He was going to do that for us, for I'm sure a venmo tip. He was no longer there, but, like accommodation's great. The house was great. I don't know about the cottage. I let them talk about it.

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Mike Padron: I mean, you couldn't have asked for a better house with a better view overlooking kind of the 1st group. 1st tee box in the hotel.

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Mike Padron: It was. It had everything we need, and it was a great place to hang out. Watch the masters so overall experience. Great. There are some things I think, I said this last time we talked about it. It felt like at times they're getting. They're getting bigger than their

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Mike Padron: they're not able to catch up with how popular they're getting, and that's not a good thing for me. For them. They just gotta once they catch up and kind of get everybody there. Get full-time employees that are that are there at Macklemore all the time. Get a hospitality team going and get all that. It's going to be spectacular.

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Jesse Stakes: It'll probably be.

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Mike Padron: Triple what we paid, but it'll be spectacular.

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Jesse Stakes: Good problems to have, but they got to.

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Jesse Stakes: Things, because if you don't fix those things, then you end up with problems of people having bad experiences, and then you get bad reviews or things like that. So.

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Mike Padron: Definitely give a great reviews. Let me be clear. With that I would give them a very, very good review. Those are little nitpick things that I'm talking about.

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Mike Padron: Just to be clear.

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Jesse Stakes: Blakely. One of the things that I thought was interesting, you know. I mean, they didn't have their carts ready on the keep like they were, they didn't have them available yet. So we ended up blocking 36. Yeah, like.

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Jesse Stakes: you know, after doing it like, yes, no. Would you ever do it again? Is it something that you actually enjoyed? Was it something that you know? What do you? What are your? What were your thoughts on walking 36 through, you know, foothill, golf.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Well, I mean, I've walked a lot of holes before. I don't want to necessarily walk 36 at the keep again. If I did it again, and they had. I would definitely get the caddy for the second round kind of to Mike's Point. All those caddies were from a caddy service, and we had somebody from Eastlake, somebody from Valhalla. They all went home before we started the second round, so you know, unless you said you booked it out, you know, a couple weeks in advance. You you had no option to even get one

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: It's a pretty course, so I didn't mind doing it. Obviously, you know, I survived, but you know I was, you know, tired. I was sore afterwards. I prefer to, you know. At least get the caddy the second round. I feel like, though

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: with the way the course was, you could see some of the sod where they laid some of the seam lines. They're still trying to grow it in. I mean, you can't. You can't put carts out there. I know they didn't have the space for them, but you can't put it out there when you're trying to grow this grass in.

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Jesse Stakes: West. Do you think they opened it early? Is that? Do you think that they could have maybe waited a little while to allow it grow in? Or do you think it's just because of the harsh winter.

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Wes Altice Golf: I personally think it was the harsh winter. I think if they had the proper growing conditions we wouldn't have really saw those seams.

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Wes Altice Golf: on that course I would definitely like Blakely said it definitely doing a caddy both times.

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Wes Altice Golf: I would highly recommend anyone that's doing it. If they decide they're going to do their second 36 or second 18

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Wes Altice Golf: walking. Carry the damn bag, because those push carts were awful like it was more work pushing those things around than it was worth. I ditched mine after the second hole by the bridge. So I was done with that but that that didn't take away from my experience. Walking in, or anything like that before we move on. I do want to give a shout out to the Pizza Company. It's called Lookout Mountain Pizza Company.

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Wes Altice Golf: spectacular like, and their service I mean, what do we get 18 or 20 pizzas or something like that?

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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah. And they were. I waited maybe 5 min when I got there later than what they said they'd be ready for

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Wes Altice Golf: you. Walked on in that place. They had a huge, you know, brick fire

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Mike Padron: Big surprises of the weekend. That was a huge surprise.

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Wes Altice Golf: Huge.

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Wes Altice Golf: Well, we are scared. Somebody like should I really order from this place? They're small pizzas. I'm like, I don't think we got an option. Let's just do it, and it's pizza. So we're gonna we're drinking or tired. Pizza is good. But, man, they they knocked it out of the park.

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Mike Padron: Let me say something real quick about that pizza thing which I think is actually really funny. Jesse.

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Mike Padron: Wes, me and Wes are playing alternate shot, and I had totally forgotten to order pizza. So I'm sitting there. We're well, then, we're on a par 4 on the par 4. I forget what it is. 6 or No. 11, and I get on the phone with a pizza person.

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Mike Padron: I wes hits the shot. So I'm like chipping up. So I chip up and get on the phone with the lady, and I'm sitting there talking. So now Wes is now putting, and he's got like a 6 foot putt, and I'm like, all right. So I'm just talking to Lady talking to Lady.

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Mike Padron: and I'm just sitting there watching him, and he puts this ball, and it goes like 4 or 5 feet past. And I'm like, Oh, shit! I was like, Can I just call you back?

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Mike Padron: And she's like I guess I was like halfway in ordering.

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Mike Padron: I had to go over there and and put it back in. Just blew it by the cup. And I'm like asking Gary. I'm like, can you just give that to us? He's like Nope, I'll call you back later.

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Mike Padron: Yeah, yeah, we were fine. I was just. It was just it was. I was not expecting. I had my putter somewhere else. I was just on the phone

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Mike Padron: ordering pizzas.

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Jesse Stakes: Very cool before I get off the walking. I wanted to give a shout out to Shelton here. So Shelton either had the flu Covid something that he probably shouldn't have been around 19 other guys. But he was very sick.

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Jesse Stakes: It was cart path. Only on on Friday it was walking 36 on Saturday, and then cart path only again. Pretty much. They said you could drive, but I didn't really see where you could drive very much on on Sunday, so I'd say, you know, if there, if you did get a trophy for being a warrior.

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Jesse Stakes: it wouldn't look like this, but you would have gotten one.

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Wes Altice Golf: Exactly.

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Michael Shelton: Was rough. I do apologize everyone. Although Ralph isn't here. I'm gonna put it on him.

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Wes Altice Golf: Everyone came back that week. They're looking to play matches, and they're like, like, Oh, I'm under the weather. I can't play. I'm like dude. You're playing 18 in a cart in Florida, like I had to walk 36, carrying for 18. Come on, guys.

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Jesse Stakes: So, Shelton, I'll stick with you here. So we did this on the weekend of the masters. This is the 1st time in a long time that you guys have done it. But I mean we had 20 guys. What were your thoughts? Did you like doing that? Did you like kind of when we were done watching the masters? Or did you feel like it's something that you would have rather done at a different weekend, so you could actually sit on the couch and watch the whole. The whole round of golf.

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Michael Shelton: My vote moving forward would be to have it a separate weekend. I think Sunday worked out very well. I mean, we all got home. The leaders hadn't teed off yet, and it was a obviously a great Sunday of golf. But overall, I mean, I think we do miss a lot of the masters. Had it been a

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Michael Shelton: let's just say, of course, you could take carts on we would have probably had some ipads out watching it as we go with something different. But I'm all about having it a separate weekend, because I think at some point in time we're gonna lose people. I mean someone has the opportunity to go to Saturday and Sunday at the Masters, I mean, I think very highly of 10 Cup. I probably would not go to that, but there may be some people and so like, I like having that whole weekend off with the masters. I like having this 10 cup week separate.

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Mike Padron: And here's something, too, that I didn't realize until afterwards about. I'm in agreement with Shelton away from the masters is probably best. And here's why

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Mike Padron: one of my favorite things about tin Cup is when you have 4 or 5 groups and everybody's coming in. There's people lined up on 18 waiting for these matches to come in. Everybody bolted

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Mike Padron: to the bar and then to the house so they can go watch the masters, and we pull up to 18. There's nobody there. I'm like, man. It's kind of depressing.

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Mike Padron: that's it.

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Mike Padron: So I do. I do like that part of it that I didn't realize I didn't even think about until we were there. Sunday was obviously awesome, but that was one part where I was like man. I kind of missed that. I liked everybody just kind of waiting on these last groups coming in right? So we didn't get. We didn't do that this year, and I don't blame them, I mean, I would have done the same thing.

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Jesse Stakes: I think Altus bolted before after 9, didn't you.

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Wes Altice Golf: Close. It was close. It was really close.

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Mike Padron: Thanks to me and you, Jesse.

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Wes Altice Golf: I mean gals, and I had a battle, and you know it was a it was a master class in giving putts. I'll I'll I'll say that much so.

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Jesse Stakes: Nice.

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Wes Altice Golf: But yeah, we're like, all right, let's let's get in when the leaders go.

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Jesse Stakes: Likely.

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Wes Altice Golf: It was still fun, like having all the guys there on Sunday. But I I my vote is still not to do it. Masters. Week.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: I mean, I'd go either way I could see. Don't do it, Masters Week, for the reasons that you guys mentioned. But I think Sunday when we got in getting to watch with everybody. It's it's easier, you know. Otherwise you

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: my text thread would be blowing up about all the shots that were happening. I could just talk to you guys. So I mean, I I really did enjoy Sunday. It would have been cool if we could have finished up with everybody on 18 and that kind of thing, but in order to do that we got to keep it close, and we failed to do so, so.

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Mike Padron: Hey? We may want to retire this whole tin cup thing on the masters, because we're 2 for 2 here. Well, 1, st one, Blakely and Shelton were. There was tigers 2019 win, and the second one was Rory's grand slam career. Grand slam, I think that's just retired on those 2. I mean, that's pretty. That's 2 great masters to sit there and watch together.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yep.

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Jesse Stakes: no doubt. So you know the whole this whole thing. We've done it as I mean, it's it's really been a really, you know, and you said it early in this whole podcast, Blakely. But I mean, this has been.

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Jesse Stakes: you know, a really cool way to reconnect with old friends great way to meet new friends. I mean, I feel like it's like it's half a dozen or one half a dozen of the other. You know.

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Jesse Stakes: Given that like, you know. Do you feel like this whole like like Macklemore for a buddy's trip, like, you know? Would you recommend it to other people? Chris.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Yeah, I would actually so I was just talking to a buddy at work. And he's going on Friday, I was like, look, you guys have a great time. The houses are right there. There's some restaurants that are.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: You're in the middle of nowhere. So you're going to play golf, and you're going to hang out. Yeah, did I like? I said, the conditions might not have been ideal when we went. If you schedule it during a time that they're great. You're going to have even better playing conditions going to have even better time. But yeah, I totally would recommend it.

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Jesse Stakes: No doubt, Shelton, what about you?

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Michael Shelton: Oh, I I just texted Jesse. So I think it was a good switch there. Good good job, producer. I think it was a great.

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Michael Shelton: like a buddies trip for golf, like if when you're going out to Bandon, you're walking 100, and what 4 holes in 5 days, or is this something? A little friendly competition? Ryder Cup style, and I'm starting to see those as 2 different things. I mean, if if all of you are 0 handicaps go wherever the heck you want to go, if you range from a 0 to a 25, then I have different views.

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Michael Shelton: What I want to do with that course. A lot of it has to do with lodging again, hanging out with people obviously nice courses. We've talked about some of the courses we've played previously, but I'm starting to kind of see a little divide and like, what is a

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Michael Shelton: like, we're going there just to play golf versus we're going there to hang out. Enjoy the time with each other. We've talked about, you know, in the future some bigger trips. Maybe families involved things like that. I do think I will go back to Macklemore at some point in time. Do I necessarily think it's a 10 cup trip. No, I don't think walking that many holes is necessarily best for our group, but I will. 100% recommend Macklemore, and I will 100 recommend the place we're going to next year.

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Wes Altice Golf: That was really well said, yeah, I would definitely recommend going, you know, as a casual trip to Macklemore 100. But as far as doing what we're doing at Tin Cup.

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Wes Altice Golf: I probably would stay away from it. But at the same time, if you got the opportunity to go, you still have to see it. I mean.

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Wes Altice Golf: you're not gonna see those views

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Wes Altice Golf: in many places at all, especially if you're in Florida or anywhere. That's flat. So I would definitely recommend it, but not for what we do.

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Mike Padron: Yeah 100%. I agree with him. There's there's definitely been. And we've talked about it. A difference between a buddy's trip and a

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Mike Padron: 20 man Ryder Cup style tournament with you when you've got twos to twenties on handicaps.

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Mike Padron: I would have 100 recommend it for buddies trip. I mean you get, you know, 4 day guys, you get one of those little lodges or the cabins. It's perfect. You got everything you need right there. Shuttle over to the keep if you need to, but when you've got it we got when you got that many guys, it makes it a little difficult, and then, like, like, we look at 10 Cup, a little different, too. We love

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Mike Padron: as many people as we can in this minimal structures. One house, 2 houses, and they're just they don't built for that there. So that's kind of a that's 1 that's our personal criteria. It doesn't matter, doesn't mean other wouldn't like the way it was set up, but a hundred percent for a buddy strip and for a golf trip and play the courses. You got to play the Highlands at least once. Just so you can learn how to putt. But besides that, it's.

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Michael Shelton: Or forget how to butt.

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Mike Padron: I mean, I will say Wes was going to say that earlier, and now that I mentioned it.

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Mike Padron: it is one of the toughest putting

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Mike Padron: yeah, it makes it's baffling you. You clearly see somebody standing a foot or 2 above you behind the hole. And you're like this is going uphill, and it is straight downhill, and it makes no sense. It's wizardry.

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Mike Padron: The only reason I was able to putt well was because I had a we were doing a scramble on Friday, and Ralph, poor Guy was putting 1st every time he was the guinea pig. The entire time it was, we thought it was left to right and uphill. It was downhill and right to left, and I was able to actually putt well, because I was doing the exact opposite of what Ralph was doing every single time. And it was.

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Mike Padron: how the hell that place does that. So luckily they have the carts, and they have little screens on the cart with the, with the map of the hole, and where you're the arrows pointing at the different elevations. But

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Mike Padron: that was tough.

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Jesse Stakes: Yeah, so, student laws of physics? Yeah.

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Jesse Stakes: yeah, I would say, I don't think I could say anything more than what you guys did. I agree with everything that was said. I think that it's a it was a really cool venue. I'm very glad we went.

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Jesse Stakes: but but to your point. I think that there's for the competition of it for different handicaps and for everything. I think there's better venues to actually compete on when you have such a wide array of of

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Jesse Stakes: of, you know, skill levels or handicap levels. However, you want to say it before we wrap up. I did want to give you an opportunity to talk about. You know it's 1 of the things that you do every year. Padron is you provide. You always make sure that we have really cool apparel or something fun like that's kind of that you kind of go back with. And one of the apparel companies that you utilize this year was was a group of guys that we've known for a long time out of Jacksonville, Florida. Give them a shout out if you would.

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Mike Padron: Yeah, we I reached out to. I played high school baseball with a guy named Scott Tool, and he is a, you know, part owner of a company called Live Forever, Golf, Lfg. And Shelton and I have been talking about it for a few years now of reaching out to them and seeing what we can do. So actually, I'm wearing it right now is one of their hoodies. And then they gave it to us, and they put our logo on the on the sleeve.

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Mike Padron: They made some blue ones for team U.S.A. These green ones for us, and this is one of the best hoodies I've ever worn. It's absolutely amazing. So, moving forward, we've we've talked about using them

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Mike Padron: for our apparel, and they've actually offered to be like, Look, we'll actually from head to toe. We'll outfit you for one of the days, if you want, and I would absolutely love that and kind of use them. And it's a local company. You're supporting somebody local. You're not, you know. Obviously, there's great apparel companies all over the country.

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Wes Altice Golf: Cool.

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Mike Padron: You know somebody here that we actually know some of the owners, and I've gone into their their office and I tried clothes on, and they were accommodating and absolutely great apparel. And they're just. They've been great with us, and I look forward to kind of using them moving forward for sure for 10 Cup.

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Jesse Stakes: Very cool, very cool. Anybody got anything to say before we wrap this up.

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Wes Altice Golf: Oh, okay, to next year. It was. It was a great.

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Michael Shelton: PIN code.

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Wes Altice Golf: It was, I agree, looking forward to next year, and

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Wes Altice Golf: you know, going, bringing home number 5.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Yeah, I just don't want to lose next year.

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Wes Altice Golf: We can't.

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Mike Padron: Say we can't say, Jesse, we are going to reunion next year back to reunion. This will be our 1st return trip to any resort we've done. Where's my helmet? Yeah, that's a story for another day.

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Michael Shelton: The drones wall, repair Kit.

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Mike Padron: I will be bringing a wall. Repair Kit for sure.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: More important.

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Mike Padron: Allegedly there was a wall that needed to be repaired.

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Jesse Stakes: On that note. I will catch you guys down the road cheers.

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Mike Padron: Cheers.

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blakely.cm@gmail.com: Alright! Cheers.

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Wes Altice Golf: Gentlemen!