From Greens to Gyms: How CrossFit Enhances Your Golf Game

If you are Professional at Anything BUT Golf, this episode is for you.

The most important piece of equipment you use on the golf course is your body.  Justin Henderson, owner of CrossFit Jax Beach and CrossFit Duval, joins Jesse Stakes and Wes Altice to share how CrossFit and maintaining personal fitness in general can have significant impacts on your golf game and your enjoyment of it!

Justin joined the show for episode 25 where we talked about what CrossFit is and how it differs from just going to your local gym.  CrossFit is truly functional fitness.  If you someone that is looking to hit it longer and have more fun, it might be for you.  Just like most things, you'll have to try it to find out.

Enjoy the show.  

Transcript

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Jesse Stakes: Hey, everybody! Welcome to making sense of it all as part of our series, professional at anything but golf.

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Jesse Stakes: I have a guest on today that owns Crossfit Jack's Beach and crossfit Duval. He's been a guest where we talked about his business a little bit. Now he's going to lend some expertise around fitness in the sport of golf. Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome, Justin Henderson. Justin, thank you so much for joining me.

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justinhenderson: What's up, Jesse? Glad to be here, man. Glad we could do it again. It's fun to talk, and, you know, get on these things, and

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justinhenderson: try and throw some people, some some words about things.

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Jesse Stakes: Nice. I also have my co-host, Wes Altus. He's the director of instruction at Topgolf, Jacksonville, Wes. Thanks again for being a part of this.

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Wes Altice Golf: Always great to be back on Justin, and this is going to be a another great one, with some good insights about your body, and how that relates to golf. It's going to be a good one.

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Jesse Stakes: Absolutely. And I, you know, it's funny. When we when we 1st started talking about doing this, you know, a lot of it goes around, you start thinking about equipment, or you start thinking about how, how you how do you get better, or what's the right things to play? But but really as we, you know, as we started as we started getting started with this, I thought, you know, one of the 1st things that we had to attack was

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Jesse Stakes: fitness. And talking about people, and where they're at with their bodies, also where they're at with their mind. And so I thought, you know, Justin is someone that we've both played golf with. He's a friend of ours, and he's and he's his whole business is designed around functional fitness for life. So

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Jesse Stakes: you know, just high level, Justin, if you I mean, if you were, if you were to kind of, you know, talk about crossfit and kind of how it applies to golf, or I guess anything where you have an athletic motion.

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Jesse Stakes: you know off the cuff. Tell me, tell me your thoughts on it.

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justinhenderson: Yeah. So you know, you take crossfit. You take fitness like the our brand of fitness and crossfit and what we do and how it's gonna apply to your life and golf and anything else. Right? We're gonna move your body through space. We're gonna do functional movements, right? We're gonna pick stuff up. We're gonna put stuff down. We're gonna sit down. We're gonna stand up. We're gonna move our body through space. We're gonna move external load through space. But we're gonna also, do you know, big thing we like to talk about is full range of motion.

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justinhenderson: right? And you know, can I do a full squat. Can I get my arm over my head right? Can I turn my hips? Can I do these things, you know, repeatable in the gym setting. And then we translate that to sport, to golf, to whatever where you need that full range of motion. You need that ability to move and do things. It, you know, it helps tremendously, and then not even that. But we're also gonna help keep you in shape to it a little bit. So you can actually physically get around 18 holes of golf, and you're not exhausted by Hole 8, and then wonder why your back 9 sucks so bad every time. You know it's because you you're tired.

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Jesse Stakes: Right. Well, we were just talking before we hit the record button about, you know, just the the guy or the or the woman who's sitting in their desk, and you know they might be 40, 50 years old at this point in time, but they still see themselves as that 20 something year old, or that teenager that was athletic, and that they, you know, they had full range of motion in their body. Wes, I'm sure you see it all the time where people come in. They have this kind of disjointed view of themselves, of what they used to be, and what they currently are. Yes.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah 100, you know, we'll get the people coming in. They're like, Yeah, I'm just taking back golf up after 20 years. Then you get in. What'd you do all the accountant I'm like, oh, so you sat down last 2030 years like, yeah, I'm like, okay.

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Wes Altice Golf: so you're not going to hit the ball as far as you did 20 years ago, just because when you're 20 years older and you've had your, you know, muscles just kind of in this hunched over position where everything's getting tight. You're not going to have the same range of motion you did

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Wes Altice Golf: 20 years ago. If you've done nothing. So see that all the time coming in and out of here, and you know, getting, you know, their range of motion and being able to move their body through. You know their range of motion that they can with not causing an injury. Obviously, if they want to start hitting the ball further.

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Wes Altice Golf: that kind of stuff needs to be addressed a little bit of via fitness.

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Jesse Stakes: So if you're gonna start somewhere, you gotta start with your body.

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Wes Altice Golf: I think I think I have to be realistic about it, too, like, Hey, I know you gotta know that your body can, you know.

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Wes Altice Golf: but brakes on yourself. Be able to swing the ball fast or swing the club faster.

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justinhenderson: And like Wes, and add to that, too.

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justinhenderson: and I'm sure you see it come into. It's not always just strength, right? We do a lot of strength movements in the gym. We do like that. Same accountant sits at his desk for 30 years. He's probably still has plenty of physical strength

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justinhenderson: to do things and be had any, you know, depending on what it is before. But you just get to where you can't move

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justinhenderson: right and like, if you can't move, you can't do things like if you know. Think about the parent who's, you know, at the pool with their kid. And you know.

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justinhenderson: you know, 10 min in. They're tired, right? They don't want to play the poor, they're not. They can't chase after their kid playing ball, or whatever. Then you go to take that same person and think that walks out on the golf course and thinks, well, I can still play golf right? And it's like, well, you can. You just can't play very well

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justinhenderson: right, because you you no longer have the capacity and the ability to do these things. But your brain kind of tells you I did this when I was 20. Well, you're 50 now, right? And you're no longer. There are a lot of things have changed, and you haven't kept up with it.

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justinhenderson: Right? We can turn. We can turn a lot of that back and we can get you back there. But it's gonna take some work.

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Jesse Stakes: So I guess that's kind of you know where where you start, like when you have someone who comes in and they're ex, and they're kind of expressing, hey? I'd like to, you know, improve my fitness, and they kind of give you say, Hey, this is a reason why, and if the you know whether it's golf or anything that they're looking to do. Athletic, I mean, pickleball is huge today in today's world, too, where people have, you know. Kind of had a new, you know, kind of energized around. You know something that's a little bit of a

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Jesse Stakes: miniature version of tennis. And they think that. Okay, I can compete at this again. I can do something fun again. But it's like, when you see those people come in like, what do you start with them?

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justinhenderson: The 1st place, I start with everyone you know. Say, we get past like, Hey, we're doing this right. But the 1st biggest thing we always talk to people about, and I always try to emphasize this to people coming to the gym. The single hardest thing to do in the gym that I try to get everybody to commit to and do is walk through the door

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justinhenderson: continually. Walk through the door

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justinhenderson: right? That's the front door is the hardest frickin thing in the gym.

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justinhenderson: Nothing you do in the gym is even close to that. If you can get yourself to come to the gym 3, 4 days a week

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justinhenderson: for a month, for 2 months, for 3 months. Make it a habit that you're doing this for 6 months.

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justinhenderson: You'll do it forever.

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justinhenderson: and it's not that hard

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justinhenderson: like. Don't let. Don't let the fear of I can't do this. It's too hard. I'm good. It's whatever. Don't let that get in the way just night. Hey? Can I open a door.

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Jesse Stakes: Yeah. Thanks.

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justinhenderson: We're here. We're here.

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justinhenderson: you know. We'll we'll get you fit by accident.

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Jesse Stakes: Right.

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Wes Altice Golf: Exactly.

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Jesse Stakes: So.

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justinhenderson: At the end of the day. We'll, you know you show up. We'll make it fun. We'll do whatever we need to do. You'll get better just being here.

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Jesse Stakes: Well, and I and I can speak to it. I've been in your gym. I mean, you got a huge sense of community, too. I mean, there's a lot of like once you're there like there's I mean, you meet people you become, you know you, you make fast friends, you. You have a re like it feels like you have a reason to come back. Once you step through the door, you start creating a reason why, and some accountability, too, because people start asking, Hey, where's Jesse? Or hey? Where's you know?

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Jesse Stakes: Where's Wes? Or whoever it is? Or you know people people start, you know. Not only do you hold yourself accountable, or do you have that guilt feeling? If you don't walk back through the door, you're gonna have somebody else that maybe picks up the phone, calls you and say, Hey, I didn't see you this week.

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justinhenderson: Yeah, exactly. I mean, you know, there's there's a community to check on you, right? And you know, and all that goes into it. I try to. It's like, you know, you gotta. It's gotta be a decision for yourself. 1st and foremost, right like, Hey, can I go do this? Having a gym. Buddy, having partners is always great. But if you a lot of times, if you start out with a gym buddy.

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justinhenderson: then say, Jesse, you and Wes are gym buddies like, Hey, we're going to go to the gym together. Let's go to the gym together. What happens the 1st day Wes calls like, Hey, man, I got stuck at work. I can't go.

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justinhenderson: And you're like, Well, West can't go today. I'm not gonna go today.

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Jesse Stakes: Yeah.

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justinhenderson: And tomorrow, and then tomorrow. Jesse, I got a dinner plans. Man, I can't go. And then, before you know, it's been 2 weeks and I've been in the gym in a month.

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justinhenderson: right? Because you were. If the other person wasn't there, you weren't going right. So

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justinhenderson: you know, make it a personal decision. You do it. And then, yeah, the community around is going to help. But, like, learn other people, you know, there's a there's a whole lot of psychology there.

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Jesse Stakes: So. So, Wes, let me ask you this, then, so like you get a person who comes in who's interested in improving their golf game, and the 1st time that you see them, you know you see them swing a club, they take a lesson with you, and then all of a sudden. You're like, you know.

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Jesse Stakes: before we ever tackle anything from from the golf side, you know that they have to improve their fitness. How do you like? How do you broach that subject? What is? How do you approach that with your with the person who is who's looking to improve their game? But they may not even have thought. You know, part of this is going to be going into the gym, and and actually improving my fitness.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah. And that's kind of part of the whole, you know.

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Wes Altice Golf: Free interview process with me. Just kind of find out just a couple of things.

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Wes Altice Golf: You know what they do for a living that gives me some insight and how long it's been since they've played.

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Wes Altice Golf: You can kind of just look at people, be honest with you, and see what's kind of tight. What's not, especially the people have been sitting down a lot.

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Wes Altice Golf: and you know it's 1 of those things, and we need to know how much time they have to commit. So is this, you know you only got an hour for a lesson and practice, and you know

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Wes Altice Golf: it really depends on the student in front of me. But I'm always suggesting, hey, if you want to hit these specific goals you keep talking about. You need to hit the ball further this and stuff I can get you so far with swing mechanics.

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Wes Altice Golf: But your body is going to be the ultimate limit if you really want to get to your next level. Now, if it's something someone just like had to say hit the ball 5 yards further.

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Wes Altice Golf: You just clean that up with impact and they'll be good. But they still run the risk of later down the line injuries popping up. You know them not even be able to go as long on the golf courses they should. So it's definitely one of those things.

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Wes Altice Golf: It's very case by case. But if they're really looking at, really jumping up to the next level.

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Wes Altice Golf: going and getting their body right is part of that, you know. Piece of the pie. String. Mechanics are super important, but the body can't function, or if it's painful, they're not going to end up being able to do the moves that we need to do to make them improve.

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Jesse Stakes: Yeah, I I agree with you. And I mean, I can speak for my own personal experience. I am a professional who sits at a desk a lot, and there are times where I am more sedentary than others, and I absolutely not only feel it when I go on a golf course, but I actually see it. I mean, I can see, I can tell. I'm I'm a you know. I might be a half a club shorter. I might be a full club shorter sometimes if it's been a month since I've been on a golf course, I haven't been able to swing swing a club, and conversely, not saying, and you know I I know Justin

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Jesse Stakes: doesn't get to play that much golf. He's a small business owner, you you have a lot of responsibilities yourself. You also have a family, so you don't get to get out on the golf course too much. But one of the things that always impresses me when I do play golf with you is that you don't seem to lose very much distance or speed when you haven't been able to play golf much, and I really do think that that's a huge. I attribute that to the fact that you're in the gym constantly. You're constantly moving, and you're a very. You're a physically fit person.

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justinhenderson: Yeah, I mean, you know, playing golf, I feel like, as long as you can't like. Say, don't get to play near as much as I'd like to, but as long as you know, as long as my contact, you know, squaring it up like I should, you know I haven't, for I mean, I'm 42 years old now. I hit the ball every bit as far as I did when I was 1820 25, right? Like I've lost 0 distance, if anything. I honestly, if anything, I've gained distance.

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justinhenderson: It hasn't, you know, cleaned up the swing. It's gotten better. Mechanics are half decent, you know, but the the reality is like the training we do this kind of movements. We do. They? They lend itself to

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justinhenderson: hitting a golf ball cross like in crossfit. One of the core tenants of crossfit is we do what you would call a court of extremity movement. Right? A lot of weightlifting different things is, we're developing strength that starts and the core moves out to our extremities right? Depending on what that may be.

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justinhenderson: when you think about a golf swing. Where does a golf swing originate? Right? It originates in the legs and the hips, and it moves out to the club, and you know, into your extremity. So it's a lot of the same thing, right? You're generating rotational force through through your hands. But if you're just thinking about throwing a club at the ball right? It's not going to hit the ball very far, right? You gotta be driving through your legs. You gotta be driving through the hip shoulder turns got to be where it's got to be.

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justinhenderson: Right, then you need to have the core strength to be able to make that movement happen. Range of motion, timing. All those things gotta come into place, and you're never doing those things. It's hard to keep that going. If you're constantly staying fit, and you're doing these things on a regular basis, whether it's swinging golf club or not. Right? You're still gonna have the basic

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justinhenderson: ability to do these things better.

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justinhenderson: Sure.

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Jesse Stakes: No doubt. Yeah.

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justinhenderson: Without even specifically training golf swings. We have, I mean, we have plenty of people who play golf and don't play golf or picked it up late and like picked it up in their forties. You know, people have been training, and they, you know, they get stepped out on the golf course, and they're they're crushing, you know. They haven't lost a bit. 55, 58, 60 years old. They're still, I mean. I'll go. I'll go play golf with them. They're still hitting the ball as far as me, and I I don't hit the ball quite as far as West does every time occasionally, and.

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Wes Altice Golf: Okay, so, but.

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justinhenderson: Here and there. You know that way. But the

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justinhenderson: but you know they'll hit it out near my drive, and it's like damn dude that ain't bad for 60, like, yeah, you know, you're still hitting the ball. Pretty good so. And and they're not doing anything like.

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justinhenderson: you know, we don't do like hyper specific golf training necessarily, but just in the general fitness we're doing and everything do. It lends itself super helpful to like your golf swing.

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Jesse Stakes: Wes anything to add. There.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, I think you know.

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Wes Altice Golf: the main thing is, you just got to keep moving. If you want to get better at all.

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Wes Altice Golf: you know. I I kind of fringe a little bit once I hey, you have to do a golf specific exercise, I think if you just exercise and get your body firing and moving.

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Wes Altice Golf: The golf. Specific stuff to me personally is once you're kind of

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Wes Altice Golf: fairly fit, and you're taking golf seriously, then kind of seeing where, you know you have some specific limitations for yourself. Maybe it's just left hip internal rotation. There's some specific exercises, and it just gets labeled as golf. It's just like it's just a corrective exercise. It's just a good way to sell a program, in my opinion. But anyone that

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Wes Altice Golf: knows the function of the body can probably pick that out for you and get you moving in the right direction. But I I feel like, Hey, just work out, and you're going to see the gains right away.

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justinhenderson: And to me.

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Jesse Stakes: Go ahead!

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justinhenderson: Right, and the reality is like tack on the West End. 1st of all, I thought was 100%. There was going to be like, hey? You know my 1st thought is, he's never hit the ball farther than me, and my second thought

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justinhenderson: but no like, you know. You take the nth degree of the population. Right? The pro level golfer. Right? If you say, if you start there, what the the fitness, modalities, and the fitness training that are gonna do and the corrective stuff and the the minute changes they can make in their swing based off their gym routine are gonna be

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justinhenderson: different, right. If I take the other 99% of people.

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justinhenderson: general fitness is going to be

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justinhenderson: head and shoulders are probably above what they're doing to begin with. So it's gonna make massive increases right out of the gate. Right? Don't worry about what you see, Rory Mcilroy doing because he's over here. He's already he's already way ahead of you. Don't worry about him, you know. Think about what everyone else is doing. That's where you're gonna find your find, your best.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah. And a guy like he's kind of. He's kind of earned the right to do those other exercises, too. You can't take a guy who's sitting down and start doing some golf specific exercises where he does. You haven't earned that right yet to move like that. So I think that's a great point right there.

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justinhenderson: Yeah, I mean, I mean, it looks cool to like stand on a Bosu ball upside down with one foot and swing a lacrosse ball and bounce it off a wall and catch it with your eyes closed. Right? It looks cool, and it might help, but the reality is, can you stand up and sit down from that chair without using your hands to push off it.

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justinhenderson: Exactly.

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Wes Altice Golf: Exactly.

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justinhenderson: Can you can. Can you do 2 push ups that are, you know.

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justinhenderson: like, you know, it's very simple, very easy stuff. Can you walk around the block without being winded.

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justinhenderson: Yeah, right? I don't know if you know this, but you know a golf. You gotta be on your feet a lot, and you need to be able to walk around the golf course.

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Wes Altice Golf: 100%. So.

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Jesse Stakes: Well, and it's like I was out in Vega. I was out in Vegas 2 weeks ago, and it was a hundred 16 degrees, and it's

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Jesse Stakes: you know it's good luck finishing 18 holes if you don't at least have some level of fitness. If you're I mean, if you're completely out of shape. You're going to be exhausted by the time you're done.

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justinhenderson: And you're flat out just not going to enjoy it.

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Jesse Stakes: Right? Right, you know.

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justinhenderson: And like we were talking about a little bit before. I mean, you think about fitness, and you think about golf. Golf was always kind of like the working man's game, right? The the business man's game, the lazy kind of hey? We're, you know, bunch of middle aged guys on the golf course, and that took a net.

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justinhenderson: Went straight to even the pro level. You know, 30 years ago, you look at guys on the tour. You know, it was, was it Phil Mickelson? Even back in the day was a big, hefty guy, and you had a bunch of hefty guys and guys were out of shape, and it didn't matter. They were in golf shape right? They get around a golf course, and they they could still, you know, still whoop all of us right? They played amazing golf, but

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justinhenderson: the reality is, you know, tiger was probably on the front end of that. But you guys come in all of a sudden they got started getting in shape, and they started taking fitness seriously. Nutrition seriously, rest and recovery seriously. And they put all these things together, and all of a sudden, hey, we're hitting the ball farther. We're hitting it straighter. We're hitting it, you know, with more power. We can do different things with a swing that we couldn't do before we can play longer in our career and still be able to generate the same. You know

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justinhenderson: efficiency with the golf swing that you could earlier on in your career. I mean, think about golf back in the day. Once you hit 40, you're kind of done.

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justinhenderson: Yeah, right. I mean, how many guys on tour right now are in their forties playing, hitting the ball? Just you know, it's not like, Hey, I'm 45. I can't hit the ball like 25. They all can.

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justinhenderson: Right?

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justinhenderson: It's it, doesn't. You know. They get a certain age, and they just, I think I think a lot of it, you know, the 50 year old playing golf with the 25 year old. I think a lot of that at the professional levels. By the time they hit 50, and nobody talks about this too much.

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Jesse Stakes: We lost you. We I lost your

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justinhenderson: Back.

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Wes Altice Golf: There you go!

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Jesse Stakes: Alright, I can edit that out. Just start, start with your answer again.

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justinhenderson: Where'd you lose me?

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Jesse Stakes: When you said by the time you hit 50,

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Jesse Stakes: and then you said when they're playing with the 20.

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justinhenderson: Oh, yeah, like the tour players right? By the time they hit 50 years old

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justinhenderson: things in your life that are keeping him from being put at the highest level when you're talking.

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Jesse Stakes: Hold on! Hold on! Hold on! Hold on! I you can't hear you very well at all.

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Jesse Stakes: Did you throw your air pods on the desk.

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Jesse Stakes: Something's

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Jesse Stakes: completely cut out now.

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justinhenderson: Yami!

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Jesse Stakes: Yep, I got you. Yep.

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Jesse Stakes: and say, throw them in the case so they don't grab you on accident.

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justinhenderson: Alright. You got me.

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Jesse Stakes: Yep, you sound much better now.

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justinhenderson: I think my airpods air pods died on me.

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Jesse Stakes: No worries.

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justinhenderson: So, picking back up where we were.

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justinhenderson: Test Jesse's edit skills. Here, there you go! Such a rant, too, so.

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Jesse Stakes: Midget.

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justinhenderson: Basically, we're saying is, at 50 years old. The tour players, right? A lot of their limitations start coming in from external factors, not just their bodies right. Their bodies are still capable of going and playing 72 holes on the weekend. No problem. But now they have family. They have a wife. They have children, they have 3 divorces, they have court battles, they have

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justinhenderson: 7 golf courses. They're building. They have investments in wine companies and tequila companies and the focus just isn't there as much right as it was when they're 25 years old, and they got no responsibilities of nothing, and they can just grind and grind and grind and grind and grind right? That plays a big factor in that, like the age, I think also on towards the guy, why guys tend to decline a little later in life.

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Jesse Stakes: No, I.

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justinhenderson: It's a.

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Jesse Stakes: I think that's a very fair point. I think that that's you know. That's and that's life. I think that that's part of acceptance as well as far as especially when you're talking about that person who's a 30 to 60 year old professional.

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Jesse Stakes: who's wanting to, you know, play at the highest level that they possibly can with their golf game, or they're wanting to compete with their buddies. They're wanting to do any of these things. I think some of it is, there is a level of acceptance of saying, Okay, I'm juggling 17 different things, and so to go out and expect to play the absolute best game of golf that I ever have in my life. Maybe I'm asking too much of myself. Maybe, like there is a like a an acceptance level of how much improvement that I can do, depending on the amount of work that I'm putting into it.

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Jesse Stakes: Yeah.

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justinhenderson: Right. I mean, you wouldn't expect your car to compete. Keep, you know, driving perfectly when it's 40 years old, and you've never done anything to it other than put gas into it. Right? That's that's what you know, human body. We. We feed it.

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justinhenderson: But you know we don't change the oil. We don't check the brakes, we don't, you know, change the tires, we don't, you know, check the steering. We don't check the foot, you know. We don't do any of this stuff. Why would we expect the car at 40 years old to still work the same way.

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Jesse Stakes: Yeah, no doubt. Well, I I'll tell you one of the biggest things that made me think about, you know, in asking you to do this episode as well is that is the fact that during the the players championship in Jacksonville, Florida, you guys had Scott Stallings and his training team come in and and you know, kind of

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Jesse Stakes: work with you guys. Do a little bit of a takeover of the gym and kind of kind of share some of their stuff as far as crossfit, and how it in how it actually directly, like, interacts with the golf, with golf and with golf movements. And I thought it was really cool, just because it was eye opening to say, Okay, you know, this is.

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Jesse Stakes: you know, if you're taking, if you're taking a modality of training. And you're saying that this you know, that that it fits golf to me. I was like, you know what? There's really not a whole lot that I would say that fits better

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justinhenderson: Yeah, it was cool to have those guys come out. And you know Scott's part of a program called Hwpo. And essentially, they have, like a golf track of programming. Right? And essentially all it is is crossfit with a golf mindset. So it's an hour long class or workout, and they kind of frame it around some of the movements that you know would be a little more golf related versus just general fitness related. The reality is what we did in that group versus what we do. You know, Monday through Friday, you know, week. There's not that big of a degree of difference.

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justinhenderson: And what is cool to see like, Hey, you know, we're doing this stuff anyway, they're doing this stuff. It's kind of all the same as finding what it is and yeah, you can tweak some stuff, you know. I think we did a little more little more rotational stuff, like deliberate rotational stuff, a little more some shoulder stability stuff, and also some of that stuff we did was it was a little more geared towards

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justinhenderson: Right? Right, hey? Let's try this movement. I gotta you know we don't know who all we're going to have here, let's base this. Any anybody could walk in off the street and do this today right?

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justinhenderson: Same with, like, you know, golf West, like you get something new. It's like, there's a there's sometimes there's limiting factors for what you can teach

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justinhenderson: right? If you've been working with somebody for a year, what we're going to work on is going to be different than what's necessarily something we're working on a day. They don't. They don't have the understanding and the foundations and the concepts of what we're going to work on.

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justinhenderson: right, so say, like a year later, instead of like, Hey, I'm doing this with a band. I can now take a dumbbell and do a dumbbell snatch right, and I can pull that overhead. Now I can add an external load. I can make it a little heavier. I'm having to use more stabilizer joints in the shoulder to get that overhead. I now have to press. I gotta work it through different things I'm using back. I'm using a whole lot. I'm having to generate power from a lot lot more areas than just you know. Here.

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Jesse Stakes: So yeah, and not, and not to name names or not that you know, not to call people out. But but can you think of anybody who'd be like kind of a success story, or somebody that you have, that you have worked with, trained, that that has, you know, that has a direct application to their golf game, and how it's improved. It.

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justinhenderson: Yeah, I mean, one guy comes to mind, you know, right off the bat.

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justinhenderson: you know, some of it's fair, some is not fair. I've been training this guy, for I don't know.

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justinhenderson: 12 years, 15 years and you know he's been over the years. His degree of focus on the gym is.

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justinhenderson: It's steady. It's always there, but you know, sometimes it's

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justinhenderson: 3 months, you know, who knows and disappears to a cabin in the woods and does his unabomber things. But he's but he's around and he's he's just. It's cool, though, because he's just started picking up golf, you know, in his late forties.

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justinhenderson: In the last couple of years, and picking up go, and he's down to, you know. He's a single digit handicap now, and a lot of that. We can talk about it. And a lot of that's based off where his fitness level is and what he's been able to maintain. You know, as he's gotten older, you know, I've been training since he was probably 38 years 37 years old, and now he's upper forties somewhere and

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justinhenderson: still moves great, still in great shape, has perfect range of motion, and because he keeps after he keeps doing things, and I know he doesn't do anything fitness wise when he's not here, so he does it here, and he's not like he comes in the gym, and he's not like a guy you're going to be like, Oh, my God, this guy's the most amazing gym athlete I've ever seen, right, but he's consistent. He works out and he does things, and it's not. You don't got to be the a hulk in the gym to be great on the golf course

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justinhenderson: right? Or to be average on the golf course, we're looking for small changes in your lifestyle, and how you do things, and, you know. Drop a couple of pounds right?

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justinhenderson: right? And just stand there and look at it, because that's all. That's all we got today. Okay.

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justinhenderson: Different things like that.

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justinhenderson: Time. Gotta work through it.

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justinhenderson: Don't let. Don't let the clock get you.

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Jesse Stakes: Alright. So if people are listening to this, and they're you know that that guy who's been banging away, who's been trying to improve at the game, and they really haven't thought about their fitness. And maybe this is something that has helped clue them in, and you know they'd like to learn more. They'd like to potentially come over to crossfit Jack Speech or Crossfit Duval. What's the best way for them to get a hold of you.

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justinhenderson: Best way to get a hold of us. Go to web the the website thing Www. At Crossfit jacksbeach.com or www, dot crossfit duval.com

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justinhenderson: hit on one of the links at all. It all leads to me. And we'll we'll have a conversation. We'll see what's going on for you, and then we'll make the best plan for you.

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justinhenderson: We like what we do. It's not for everybody.

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justinhenderson: But I think I think it can work for the masses, and you know, as long as you're willing to put in a little bit of work.

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justinhenderson: keep showing up.

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Jesse Stakes: Justin, I want to thank you for joining me. I thought it was great. I learned, you know. It's just like anything else. I think it's you throw it, you throw out ideas, you give somebody a concept and let them think about it and fit, and they they can figure out whether it's for them or not, but I think that the best way to do it is to try it. Get in the gym, see if it's something that that sticks with. You see, if it's something that you could get excited and passionate about, and and and we'll make sure that everybody has links and has access to you so that they can contact you if they need to.

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justinhenderson: Perfect

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justinhenderson: awesome guys. Thanks you, too.

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Jesse Stakes: Wes, thanks for joining.

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Wes Altice Golf: As always pleasure.