Making Cents of It All

Academy of Putting is in Session - Stan Moore, PGA is Holding Class!

Jesse Stakes Season 3 Episode 82

If you are Professional at Anything BUT Golf, and you want to be a better putter - this episode is for you...

Stan Moore, PGA, is regarded as South Florida’s #1 Putting & Short Game Coach and he took some time out of his busy schedule of helping his students pile up trophies to join the show and help us out!

Since the beginning of golf, putting has not been taught to provide the golfer with a clear accurate picture. The golfer has actually been put into a position of not understanding. A place of guessing what they should do. Subjective measures based on feel and emotion. The problem is that feel and emotion change everyday. So tomorrow you are hunting for something you had yesterday but cannot find it today.

Every golfer should be performing from an objective position, of understanding. So how would you go about learning a position of understanding?

Stan teaches “A Performance Putting System built around understanding the coordination of stroke lengths, timing, acceleration, and effective reading of the slopes and grades found on greens.”

You are going to learn!

Green Management
How to maneuver around the green to know the distance of the putt, grade percent, slope percent, and adjusted distance of the putt.

Stroke Management
Knowing how to use the putter to develop the correct length of stroke that matches the adjusted distance of the putt, that matches the green speeds you are playing on.

Time Management
Knowing your own personal timing that will teach you how to control your timing and acceleration down into the ball.

Visual Management
Knowing how to use your eyes. What to look at, where to look, and how to look.

Mental Management
Learning to putt with a mind that is calm, free of fear, and anxiety, that will allow the body to produce a fluid stroking motion.

When you start to learn these types of lessons, you will be put into a position of understanding exactly what you need to do, once you are on the green.  You will become the Master of the Green. The players that Stan coaches have achieved it, reduced their putting average and have gone on to win their matches and win tournaments.

Stan Moore, PGA Certified Coach, teaches at the Don Law Golf Academy, located at the Osprey Point Golf Course, in Boca Raton, Florida. He specializes in player development, with a focus on putting & short game.

Stan has created one of the the Most Comprehensive Putting & Short Game Programs in the United States. He has students competing at every level from junior, club golfer, through the collegiate ranks and Professional tours.

"I believe what and how I teach putting, will teach you to make more putts! Period!"     - Stan Moore, PGA

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Jesse Stakes: Hey, everybody! Welcome to making sense of it all as another part of our professional at anything but golf series. Let me welcome Stan Moore. He is the.

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Jesse Stakes: He is a PGA professional at the Boca Raton golf lessons and academy of putting.

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Jesse Stakes: I also have wes altus as always. On this, podcast

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Jesse Stakes: let me clean this entry up this because this sucked.

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Wes Altice Golf: I was wondering. I was wondering if you were gonna reboot.

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Jesse Stakes: Yeah, this this really sucks. So let me start over again.

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Stan Moore: Just say Academy of putty. Just say Academy.

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Jesse Stakes: Me too.

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Stan Moore: On it.

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Wes Altice Golf: I was like. I'm fine.

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Jesse Stakes: And word salad over here.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yes.

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Jesse Stakes: Alright!

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Jesse Stakes: Take 2, hey, everybody! Welcome to making sense of it all as part of our professional at anything but golf series. I am pleased to welcome Stan Moore. He is with the Academy of putting in Boca, Raton, Florida, Stan. Thank you so much for joining me.

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Stan Moore: Thank you. Appreciate being here today.

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Jesse Stakes: As always, we also have Wes Altus Wes is the head professional at Jacksonville's top golf. Wes. Thanks so much for joining me again, and.

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Wes Altice Golf: Always great to be on another great guest today. If you want to know anything about putting, this is your guy. So I'm excited to have Stan on. Stan and I go back. We met via the stack and tilt network. So this is going to be some really great information that's going to be coming the golfers way.

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Jesse Stakes: So this is one of those one of those topics, Wes, where you I don't know what I don't know, so please jump in anywhere you feel like it. Ask whatever questions that you feel like should be relevant to our audience or things that they should know, that I don't even know to ask, so I'm counting on you.

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Wes Altice Golf: You you got it. I got you.

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Jesse Stakes: So, Stan, before we jump into anything. Can you tell us a little bit about your business and what you kind of your focus, and what you do for your clients.

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Stan Moore: Well, I've I've been teaching 22 years.

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Stan Moore: I came down to originally from Atlanta.

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Stan Moore: but I've worked out in the southwest section.

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Stan Moore: But 11 years ago I came down here to Florida.

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Stan Moore: and I actually went to work for the Don Log off Academy. That's where I am still right now.

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Stan Moore: doing my work also.

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Stan Moore: and

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Stan Moore: doing full-time instruction.

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Stan Moore: And as I was down here.

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Stan Moore: you know, there's a lot of golf pros down here in Florida.

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Stan Moore: Just a couple sort of yeah, just a few

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Stan Moore: You know, I started looking at all the pros here and what they were doing, and everything and

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Stan Moore: everything was more geared towards full swing.

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Stan Moore: So. I said to myself.

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Stan Moore: What can I do to differentiate myself

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Stan Moore: from the rest of these pros here.

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Stan Moore: so I always loved putting. I said, you know what I'm going to dive into putting a little bit more.

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Stan Moore: So I decided that I was going to just go in that direction.

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Stan Moore: so went out and bought a Sam Putt lab, started buying a lot of books. I started contacting other professionals who are very well known

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Stan Moore: for their putting. Dr. Craig Farnsworth being one of those.

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Stan Moore: I just started going to see people talk to people and learning as much as I could about putting.

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Stan Moore: And over the course of the last 9 years.

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Stan Moore: Here's where we are today.

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Stan Moore: So I've gained a lot of knowledge by reading.

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Stan Moore: by engaging other professionals

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Jesse Stakes: Well, and I'll tell you I kind of I kind of caught on to you through Instagram. You gotta you're you're a fun. Follow on Instagram, and I actually saw you know your the putting Academy on Instagram, and then.

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Stan Moore: Right.

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Jesse Stakes: I saw that West was connected to you, and that's kind of how I started asking Wes about you was, you know, because you you put out content as well. I know that. That's you know, that's probably secondary. It's kind of a probably an output of what you do, but there's a. But there's a lot of great information, a lot of great content there as well. If people are on Instagram, I'll make sure that they have a link to your to your handle as far as when we get done with this, as well.

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Stan Moore: Great great. I get a lot of people from Instagram who will contact me. Most of my business, though, comes from

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Stan Moore: word of mouth websites. I must tell you I have. I've had people from all over the world

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Stan Moore: come to visit me. People from Canada, South America.

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Jesse Stakes: Hey? It doesn't hurt that you're in Boca, Raton, either.

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Stan Moore: No.

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Stan Moore: it doesn't. I'm in a really sweet spot.

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Jesse Stakes: No doubt, no doubt. So let's talk about your background with the game. How was it like, did you? Were you a were you a golfer as a kid? Was it something that was always a passion? When did you get engaged in the game of golf?

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Stan Moore: Well.

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Stan Moore: I've been playing for 62 years.

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Jesse Stakes: All right.

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Stan Moore: I started when I was 10 years old. So that tells you how old I am. I guess

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Stan Moore: I started when I was 10 years old, and the reason I got started was watching Arnold Palmer and Jack Necklace

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Stan Moore: battle at I out every weekend on TV.

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Jesse Stakes: Nice.

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Stan Moore: I thought, this is rather cool.

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Stan Moore: so I want to do it, too.

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Stan Moore: When I was about 13 I had my

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Stan Moore: 1st formal golf lesson at Arizona Country Club in Phoenix, Arizona.

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Stan Moore: So that's kind of where I got started, and

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Stan Moore: from there started playing into some junior tournaments and so forth.

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Jesse Stakes: Very cool. And did you ever have? Did you have aspirations to play professionally? Was it something that you aspired to? Or was it? Was it something that you

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Jesse Stakes: where did? Where did you want to take the game?

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Stan Moore: Great question. You know, I never thought about being professional. Okay, I played. I played all the way through high school. I played about a year into college.

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Stan Moore: and I actually dropped the game at that point, focused on my college career.

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Stan Moore: and business related things

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Stan Moore: as life went on.

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Stan Moore: I got back into golf.

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Stan Moore: and I had a a time in my life where I could play almost every day.

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Stan Moore: So I started playing a lot of golf. I got real good at it.

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Stan Moore: and finally decided that I wanted to go into instructions.

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Stan Moore: became a PGA member

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Stan Moore: went to clubs. Various clubs became head pro at once specific club. And here I am down in Florida now.

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Jesse Stakes: I think that's really cool. It's kind of a second act. But back to your 1st love.

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Stan Moore: That's exactly what it was. I really had no aspirations of wanting to be a pro. I just really wanted to go out and have fun playing golf.

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Jesse Stakes: Yeah. So I gotta ask, what did you do? What did you do in between? What was what was your what was your 1st profession?

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Stan Moore: I was in hotel business, but.

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Jesse Stakes: Okay.

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Stan Moore: Of my life, so hospitality.

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Jesse Stakes: It's pretty clear.

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Stan Moore: Right? Yeah. My family was in hotel business. I grew up in hotels as a kid. I mean, I actually lived in these hotels.

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Stan Moore: It was something I just kind of fell back into, and I stayed there.

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Stan Moore: And finally, at 1 point in my life I'd had enough of it, and

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Jesse Stakes: Very cool. So so let's jump into it. Let's start talking about putting and and talking about short game and the things that you love and the things that you're passionate about, you know right off the bat. Can you tell me and my audience what is your philosophy on putting? What is it, you know? Kind of how do you look at it?

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Stan Moore: Well, I teach a performance putting system

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Stan Moore: that's built around understanding the coordination of stroke lengths.

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Stan Moore: timing.

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Stan Moore: and effective reading of slopes and grades

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Stan Moore: on the greens.

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Stan Moore: Now, that's kind of a mouthful.

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Jesse Stakes: Yep, you left me speechless there for a second.

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Wes Altice Golf: I think I think the great thing about what you know Stan's already starting to hit on is he's got a a system of way to.

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Wes Altice Golf: you know. Look at the person in front of them, and I know something I've discussed before is.

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Wes Altice Golf: you know, knowing where to start with someone, even if they're brand new to the game. And what Stan does, you know it? It's simple words, but there's a lot of complexity behind those words, and I'm sure as we get going.

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Stan Moore: You man, Dan.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, Stan is going to, you know, really, that dive into it. Make it simple for us. But I want everyone to realize there is a lot of complexity about what he's about to explain to us. So this is going to be where the this is going to be. A lot of fun

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Wes Altice Golf: going forward now. I can't wait to hear more from Stan on this.

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Stan Moore: Well, you're right, Wes. This really is a system.

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Stan Moore: So

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Stan Moore: And I approach it that way. For example.

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Stan Moore: what I really teach is, 1st of all, stroke lengths.

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Stan Moore: Okay. So when I 1st get a player into see me.

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Stan Moore: I I look at their stroke. I ask them a lot of questions 1st of all, to find out where they are with putting

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Stan Moore: and what their thought process, what their story is. Really. Everybody has a story.

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Stan Moore: almost the same stroke.

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Jesse Stakes: Right.

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Stan Moore: So how do they get the ball to the hole?

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Stan Moore: They do that by guessing.

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Stan Moore: They change their timing, they change their tempo

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Stan Moore: Well, in my teaching I want to keep our

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Stan Moore: the same, regardless of distance.

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Stan Moore: Most people, when they get closer to a hole.

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Stan Moore: Okay, so with that, said, what I then go into is the stroke links, and we discuss the length of their stroke.

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Stan Moore: And I'm about teaching

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Jesse Stakes: Okay.

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Stan Moore: So from there I teach a player 4 different template stroke links that have been designed on a 9 stemp green

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Stan Moore: Okay. So they learn a 6 foot stroke, a 10, a 20, and a 30.

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Stan Moore: Is rolling the proper distance to the hole.

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Stan Moore: All of a sudden they're learning the feel

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Jesse Stakes: Reference points in their mind.

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Stan Moore: Tomorrow they would come back and they would feel something different. So they're having to start all over every day.

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Stan Moore: I'm trying. I'm trying to give them something they can take

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Stan Moore: and not have to search for the field every day.

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Jesse Stakes: Right.

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Stan Moore: So I give them these template of stroke links to learn.

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Wes Altice Golf: Think that's.

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Jesse Stakes: Go ahead. Wes.

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Wes Altice Golf: Jessica. Yeah, I think something just to kind of backtrack on that, just to touch you said something about capture speed. And I think a lot of people out there.

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Wes Altice Golf: One probably have no clue. What that means to the importance of capture speed. If you hit the ball

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Wes Altice Golf: too hard, you essentially narrow.

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Jesse Stakes: What I hear, what I hear a lot of it like, especially for my audience. That's you know that that 30 to 60 year old professional you're putting. You're putting a lot of effort in upfront to build your your approach to putting, but it really does simplify it tremendously when you're on the course it makes it to where these things like you're you're building in something that that takes the anxiety out of it that takes the doubt out of it, because you have confidence in the system

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Jesse Stakes: that you're leaning, that you're leaning back on, that you're that you're counting on to get to give you the output that you're looking for.

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Jesse Stakes: So you're really giving, I mean. And this is I. I think this is huge, very key to the audience that we're speaking to. You're giving them a system to follow. You're giving them all of the all of the data, all their data points, whether it's the length, the length of the putt, the speed of the putt, the great, the grade of the ground that they're on. Essentially, you're you're getting everything down to the only, the only potential variable that should be in their equation is their own input into the stroke, as far as how much, how much power that they're putting into it.

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Jesse Stakes: There's a lot of bad information out there, and I think that there's a lot of, and I think that people and I think that's 1 of the again. That's a big reason why we decided to do this series is to get people good information, because the reality of it is is you can find a lot of noise out there, especially if you get a subscription to Youtube.

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Jesse Stakes: So almost think about it like a swing like, if you're a kid and you're swinging, it's almost like when you get to the top of that swing, you just start falling the other direction.

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Stan Moore: but not everybody that I teach has a lab hunter. Okay.

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Stan Moore: so a lot of it is.

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Stan Moore: can they control the putter?

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Stan Moore: Okay?

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Stan Moore: so we have to look at weight.

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Stan Moore: I look a lot at ball position.

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Stan Moore: Okay, I will say this.

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Stan Moore: your timing.

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Stan Moore: your tempo.

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Stan Moore: will regulate

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Stan Moore: the face and path of the putter if applied properly.

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Stan Moore: Okay, most people don't understand that most people think we have a problem with the putter.

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Stan Moore: and they start focusing on grip.

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Stan Moore: And physical aspects of the player.

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Stan Moore: It's not always that I find. If you create the proper rhythm.

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Stan Moore: timing tempo.

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Stan Moore: you can

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Stan Moore: overcome, and it will regulate

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Stan Moore: other parts

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Stan Moore: of the stroke. There.

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Jesse Stakes: Well and just speaking, speaking from the the position of the average golfer, I think a lot of it, too, is marketing, you know. You think about how a lot of these companies market putters to players. And they're they're like, What's what type of stroke do you have? Do you have a do you have an open to close stroke? Do you have a slightly arm stroke? Do you have a straight backstroke? They start getting people to think about things in terms of

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Jesse Stakes: well, maybe, my putter, it doesn't fit me, and so they get them to question whether or not they should be buying a new putter and.

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Stan Moore: Well.

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Jesse Stakes: I get it. It's all a business. Everyone's got to, you know, everyone's selling something but it. But at the same time, when it comes to doing something

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Jesse Stakes: at your best, or being able to execute

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Jesse Stakes: a task as far as making a putt.

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Jesse Stakes: It like you said, it doesn't necessarily mean you need a new stick for the job.

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Stan Moore: Well, you would not believe how many people will contact me, saying they need to have me check their putter, or they need a putter fitting.

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Stan Moore: and then when I get them.

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Jesse Stakes: It's easier to say it's the Indian, not the arrow or the arrow, not the Indian. Excuse me.

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Stan Moore: So, and then when I get them here.

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Stan Moore: and I see what's going on with their stroke.

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Stan Moore: and then I just change the stroke lengths or teach them stroke lengths in good rhythm timing.

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Stan Moore: It's amazing

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Stan Moore: that everything cures itself.

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Stan Moore: And now they're not thinking about that. They need a new putter anymore.

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Stan Moore: Okay.

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Stan Moore: I always believe I can teach a player to use a baseball bat properly

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Stan Moore: and

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Stan Moore: make a pot.

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Stan Moore: Yeah, that's how much I believe in the system and how it works.

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Jesse Stakes: Okay.

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Jesse Stakes: I always think it's funny, because I I think sometimes it's it's just like when you, when you blade a wedge to make a putt or anything else. It's I mean, there's

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Jesse Stakes: you, don't. You don't necessarily need a specialized tool to do the job.

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Stan Moore: No, no.

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Wes Altice Golf: You gotta. You gotta understand how to use the tool. So in your case, you know, blading the wedge, you know.

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Wes Altice Golf: I don't know if Stan has seen this. But I've seen people's strokes improve just

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Wes Altice Golf: focusing on that because they know they can't yank that thing around. And the precision of it. So you actually see that natural timing that I've seen I haven't been able to test because I don't have Sam Putt. But it's amazing. Just sometimes blading a putter, or I'm sorry a wedge on purpose.

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Stan Moore: Bye.

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Wes Altice Golf: How that will change their profile.

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Stan Moore: Exactly, absolutely.

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Jesse Stakes: I what I heard there is Mrs. Altus. We have a wish list item for for Wes is Christmas.

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Wes Altice Golf: A wedge that putts got us.

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Jesse Stakes: Now I'm at the Sam Putt Lab.

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Wes Altice Golf: Oh, God! Wouldn't that be great?

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Jesse Stakes: So what about? Tell me about this for injuries or people that are, you know, if they have health issues? Are there certain things, as far as do you. Do you notice that maybe you have to accommodate for for people's

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Jesse Stakes: disabilities, or or just you know, things that have happened through life. When you're talking about that 30 to 60 year old professional audience that we're that we're focused on.

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Stan Moore: Well.

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Stan Moore: here's what I've found. Let's talk about Yips.

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Stan Moore: Okay.

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Jesse Stakes: Let's do it.

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Stan Moore: So when I apply stroke links to the player in timing.

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Stan Moore: I've had players tell me

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Stan Moore: their Yips have gone away.

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Stan Moore: Simple, because they start understanding where they need to go with a putter and finish with a putter.

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Stan Moore: Okay? Instead of guessing again.

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Jesse Stakes: Right.

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Stan Moore: I'm just going by what they say to me.

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Stan Moore: Injury wise

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Stan Moore: You know. Most people who come to me aren't injured.

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Stan Moore: I haven't had to deal with a lot of those aspects.

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Stan Moore: The only thing is the yeps, and I'll just say

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Stan Moore: stroke links and timing will help

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Stan Moore: the player who has yeps

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Stan Moore: to reduce or get over the yips.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah. And I think this is good to understanding those 2 things, Stan, this is where people can also combat nerves over a big putt when their adrenaline's pumping they can go back to it like, Hey, I know this 6 footer on this 10 step. Green goes to like the back of my big toe, or whatever that.

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Stan Moore: Yeah, right.

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Wes Altice Golf: Happens to be calibrated, they can

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Wes Altice Golf: go into the process and not worry about the outcome, because we all know you could have a green that you think is perfect, and there might be a small indentation in that green that kicks a perfect put offline.

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Wes Altice Golf: but at least they can control what they can control in that moment to help ease off some of the anxiety they might be feeling over a big putt.

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Stan Moore: Well, exactly. I mean.

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Stan Moore: this is what I continually

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Stan Moore: talk to players about.

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Stan Moore: Their goal is to put the ball in the hole.

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Stan Moore: But their task or their job

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Stan Moore: is to move the putter in rhythm

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Stan Moore: to the specific endpoints.

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Stan Moore: So what should the player have their mind on when they're playing.

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Stan Moore: Most players have their mind on. I gotta get it in the hole. This is for a birdie, this is for a par, or they're thinking of their left shoulder or right elbow.

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Stan Moore: or even the path of the stroke or the the line.

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Stan Moore: You know this sort of thing. You can't think about those external things. We need to think about the internals.

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Stan Moore: What are the internals

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Stan Moore: timing tempo, and the endpoints of the stroke?

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Jesse Stakes: Right.

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Stan Moore: Okay, those are your internals. And if the mind is focused on the internals and the internals are where, right in front of you.

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Stan Moore: Okay, the hole is over to the side of you.

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Stan Moore: If you get your mind on what's right in front of you

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Stan Moore: and apply your internal timing.

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Stan Moore: and count that timing

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Stan Moore: as you make your stroke.

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Stan Moore: it'll calm your mind, relax you, and give you a better opportunity to roll the ball in the hole.

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Jesse Stakes: 100% I can. I can absolutely see it even through this conversation. It's it's just like having a set of instructions to build a kid's toy, or to build something out in your backyard. It's it's you have something to rely on. If you get lost at any point in time you can go back to the instructions. You can go back.

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Stan Moore: Correct blueprint, correct.

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Stan Moore: absolutely.

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Wes Altice Golf: Blueprint. I I tell that to all my players, here is your blueprint when I'm working on them with something in their game like this is your blueprint.

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Wes Altice Golf: Stick to your blueprint, you don't, you know, for putting a desk together. You don't get the chair instructions to try and put the desk together doesn't make sense. These are your instructions. Keep on this blueprint, and people like to jump off the blueprint because.

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Stan Moore: Right.

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Wes Altice Golf: They're having a bad day because something's new. It doesn't feel great, and they make a mistake like, Oh, it doesn't work, it's like, well, Duh, you haven't learned it yet, like at least you have to stick to your blueprint. Trust that process.

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Wes Altice Golf: and you know, really grind that over. And then, at the end of the day, it doesn't work, or you don't understand it. You know there's other source of information. But sticking to your blueprint is number one.

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Stan Moore: Or what ice.

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Jesse Stakes: Oh, well, real quick. I think that there's just like as far as from that average player's perspective. Sometimes I think that you know, you don't get to the point where you have that blueprint, you. You've you've never. You never spent the time. You never spent the effort to build the blueprint, and so I always have a saying with with people in my own profession, confuse mine. Say no.

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Jesse Stakes: So it's like if you, if you never get to the point where you have actually clarified and codified it into that true blueprint. Then you've still left that person with a lot of fear, doubt, and confusion in their mind. So they like they really have to spend that time to get there.

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Jesse Stakes: Go ahead. Sam apologize. Didn't mean to interrupt you. There.

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Stan Moore: No,

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Stan Moore: What you're saying is perfect. So what what does the player need?

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Stan Moore: The player needs experience. He needs experience applying these things.

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Stan Moore: So learning, stroke lengths, learning, timing, learning, aimpoint, green reading, learning something in the full swing

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Stan Moore: takes time, and you have to have experience, and if if you stay. Stick to the blueprint like Wes is talking about, and you keep working the blueprint

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Stan Moore: over and over and over.

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Stan Moore: There's going to be times where you have victories. There's going to be times where you have defeats.

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Stan Moore: You have to keep plugging and driving through

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Stan Moore: and maintain the blueprint.

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Stan Moore: and the more experience that you gain

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Stan Moore: the better it's going to become.

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Jesse Stakes: And down.

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Stan Moore: No quick fix in golf.

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Stan Moore: but we live in a quick fix world.

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Wes Altice Golf: Unfortunately. Well, I don't think anything is

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Wes Altice Golf: quick. Fix outside of. Oh, there's a water leak, and I just put some putty over.

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Stan Moore: Yeah, correct. But that.

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Wes Altice Golf: But that doesn't necessarily. It's going to fix the real problem that's going on. You have a leak like you have a leak. I don't care you putty it. You still have a leak going on so just like in Jesse, like you were saying, like in the professional world.

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Wes Altice Golf: people with more experience tend to do better at their job, and, you know, make more money and have more success. A lot of that comes from keep doing things. You might mess up and fall on your face, but you're going to learn from it. But you keep

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Wes Altice Golf: going through your process and the experience. Now you have more tools to kind of deal with, different, you know, adversies that come your way, even golf course or the boardroom, you got to realize, hey?

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Wes Altice Golf: I'm going to fail a lot before it becomes successful. And, Stan, you said, we're gonna hey? I need it to work right now. Otherwise it doesn't work society.

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Stan Moore: Well, I always tell everyone

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Stan Moore: mistakes should be your friend.

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Stan Moore: Okay.

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Jesse Stakes: It's all information.

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Stan Moore: Got him as your friend.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yup!

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Stan Moore: Because they're going to help you understand what you need to do to get better.

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Wes Altice Golf: Microsoft.

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Stan Moore: Not. Everybody looks at the mistakes as their friend.

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Stan Moore: They get, they loser cool about it. So we have a little change of mindset. There we can again gain more experience and get better.

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Jesse Stakes: No doubt. Oh, and I I'll ask you. I I ask this of people all the time. But

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Jesse Stakes: You know my in my experience. I always thought success in putting equals. How many putts I had in a round like that was what I kind of originally

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Jesse Stakes: measured, and then I, even in conversations with Wes.

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Jesse Stakes: You know he's like, well, that's probably not the best way to measure your success, or how you're doing in putting. So I'll ask you.

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Jesse Stakes: what do you see? Is the proper way that people should measure their success when it comes to pudding.

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Stan Moore: Well, here's what I ask, my players.

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Stan Moore: how many one putts

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Stan Moore: do you make around?

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Stan Moore: I'll give you an example, Aaron badly.

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Stan Moore: and Taylor Montgomery are the top 2

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Stan Moore: in the world. There.

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Jesse Stakes: And tour.

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Stan Moore: They average 8, 1 putts per round.

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Stan Moore: So we all start with at least 18 one putts. They're making 45% of their 1st putts

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Stan Moore: with 8 1 putts.

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Jesse Stakes: And they're the best in the world.

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Stan Moore: They're the best in the world.

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Stan Moore: and the top professionals usually have a total of about 27 to 28 putts. That's tour. That's tour level, putting right there 27 to 28 total putts.

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Stan Moore: So I'm telling all of my players.

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Stan Moore: If you can get to an average of around 6

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Stan Moore: one putts around

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Stan Moore: and you 2 putt the others. You're going to have a total of 30 putts.

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Stan Moore: Okay.

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Stan Moore: that's good putting.

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Stan Moore: And I've had players that have gone out there and done 25, and 26

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Stan Moore: pots, and around.

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Jesse Stakes: Sure.

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Stan Moore: And then I've had others that are higher, of course.

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Stan Moore: But if you can average

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Stan Moore: around that 30 putt range most amateurs you're you're in a pretty good putting range. So

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Stan Moore: I'm looking for how many one putts you're going to make a round.

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Stan Moore: and those could be chips

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Stan Moore: and one pots.

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Stan Moore: They're still prepars most of the time.

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Stan Moore: Bars are good.

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Stan Moore: The second thing I'm going to look for

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Stan Moore: is, how many one putts can you make

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Stan Moore: between

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Stan Moore: one and 15 feet.

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Jesse Stakes: Okay.

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Stan Moore: Okay.

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Stan Moore: So I had a student the other day.

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Stan Moore: He shot 77.

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Stan Moore: Okay.

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Stan Moore: he made 6 out of 8

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Stan Moore: from 15 feet. And in

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Stan Moore: that's awesome.

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Jesse Stakes: Absolutely. That's good quality.

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Wes Altice Golf: Let's put the lights out.

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Stan Moore: Yeah, he missed one putt

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Stan Moore: from 6 feet.

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Stan Moore: which would have given him 7 out of 8, and then he missed a 15 footer.

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Stan Moore: Now, on top of that

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Stan Moore: he had 2, 3 putts.

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Stan Moore: and they started out from 60 feet.

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Stan Moore: Well.

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Stan Moore: 60 feet. You know how how often you practice 60 footers. Not a lot, I just said, go practice your 60 footers

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Stan Moore: right, you know. Throw him out there every now and then, and practice 60 footers. But when he's hitting 6 out of 8 from 15 feet.

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Stan Moore: He's doing something real good right there.

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Jesse Stakes: And how many.

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Stan Moore: But how many pots

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Stan Moore: from 15 feet in the end are you making? If you're making

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Stan Moore: one out of 8,

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Stan Moore: you need some work there.

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Stan Moore: Okay, so I'm looking at that. Those numbers.

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Stan Moore: I'm looking at. How many one pots.

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Stan Moore: Of course I'm looking at 3 putts.

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Stan Moore: and then let me just tell you the best players in the world. 3 putt.

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Jesse Stakes: Sure.

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Stan Moore: I?

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Stan Moore: Oh, yeah, but but

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Stan Moore: and then I'm looking for total putts again. Tour tour levels 27 to 28. If you can make 30 putts.

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Stan Moore: 31 putts around. You're doing still doing some pretty good putting there.

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Stan Moore: Yes.

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Wes Altice Golf: And so.

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Stan Moore: That I'm look for.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah, I love. I love that

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Wes Altice Golf: you know, to kind of bring this back to you know the the professional

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Wes Altice Golf: not professional golfer. But the

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Wes Altice Golf: you know professional person, who's, you know, only got a limited amount of time.

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Wes Altice Golf: Where would you? Let's say they get there, you know their strength lights down all that kind of stuff, what distance putt or ranges if they're in a crunch of like 20 min of practice putting, where would you want them to focus at.

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Stan Moore: 6 feet 10 feet 20 feet and 30 feet. The template strokes that I teach them. What they have to do is take that to the venue they're playing that day

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Stan Moore: and test it

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Stan Moore: on those greens that they're playing.

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Stan Moore: So if they can't roll the ball a foot past the hole

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Stan Moore: with those template strokes. They're rolling it 3 feet past the hole. They have to change the length of their strokes to match the greens they're playing on that day.

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Stan Moore: but they will continue to apply their own characteristic internal timing that should never change.

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Jesse Stakes: Excellent.

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Jesse Stakes: So if people are listening, if people are listening to this, they're

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Jesse Stakes: they'd like to speak more with you, or they'd like to learn more about potentially taking lessons with you, or or just getting more involved. What's the best place for them to find you.

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Stan Moore: Well.

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Stan Moore: I work in Boca. Raton at the Don log off Academy.

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Stan Moore: Okay.

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Stan Moore: but they can reach me

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Stan Moore: at my website. Boca. Raton Goth lesson.com

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Stan Moore: on Instagram. They can see me as Academy of putting.

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Stan Moore: That'll give you some ideas of what I do.

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Stan Moore: I post every day there

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Stan Moore: of different players on my websites.

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Stan Moore: When you go there you'll see players holding trophies.

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Stan Moore: So I post pictures of players holding trophies. Why.

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Stan Moore: it shows evidence of my work

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Stan Moore: that's being effective.

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Jesse Stakes: That's right. Proof of concept.

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Stan Moore: Correct.

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Wes Altice Golf: Absolutely.

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Stan Moore: So that's why I post them there. So if they go there.

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Stan Moore: so should find the necessary information on me.

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Jesse Stakes: Awesome.

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Jesse Stakes: Stan Wes. I've really appreciated the conversation. I think this is awesome. I know we only scratched the surface, and I think that there's a lot, you know. There's a lot more we could talk about with this, and I think that if people are interested I think the best thing that they should do is is, you know, contact you and and really kind of

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Jesse Stakes: dive into it personally. Not just talk about it. So I thank you guys. I enjoyed this conversation.

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Stan Moore: Thank you.

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Wes Altice Golf: Thank you.

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Stan Moore: Appreciate you asking me.

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Wes Altice Golf: Yeah. Great stuff, Stan, as always. Good seeing you again, my friend. And

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Wes Altice Golf: keep. Getting those kids, those trophies. Okay.

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Stan Moore: Okay. Sounds good.


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